(fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ?

[Andrew Keyser]

Sorry, I call pure BS here about 5.1 only being 4.1. 

There's nothing mandating that center be used as voice. Listen to the first DTS release on FAX -- Virtual Vices V -- he uses the center channel for all sorts of stuff. Guitars, synths, you name it.
Think a little please. They didn't add a center channel *just* for voice. It has the full range just like all the other channels (excepting the sub).


I also call BS about downloads not being hifi. Perhaps you should have specified more clearly. Lossy codecs now days attain fairly hi-fi results at around 192 kb/s VBR. But there are plenty of lossless codecs. FLAC for example... is an exact duplicate of whatever's on the CD, at about half the amount of data (if you can't believe that, then just think of a specialized zip algorithm for wav(pcm) data with some music specific additions). Yes, some places do sell FLAC downloads, but they are far and few between unfortunately.



And I'm sorry, but I have to call BS again -- DTS stands for Digital Theater Systems. Dolby Digital is AC3. DTS is unrelated to Dolby. Glad I cleared that up. DTS > Dolby imho ;)

You seem to be mistaken as to what DTS means. DTS cannot in any way, shape, or form, be encoded with any lossy codec like MP3. FLAC can encode DTS but it needs to be decoded back to DTS-WAV for it to be played properly (unless the player application is specifically set up to check for DTS audio encoded in FLAC).

I believe that's all the BS I can find. ;)

Andrew



----- Original Message ----

From: mark dawes <speakermark at hotmail.co.uk>

To: cameron69 at comcast.net; trevor at tecnopolis.ca; faxlist at 2350.org

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:09:45 PM

Subject: Re: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ?



heck this is the first thing i have seen that has made me want to make a 

reply!



Please all excuse my ignorance about the faxlist thing...all i am wondering 

about is 'what are you listening on'? Downloads really are not 'hifi' in any 

sense of the term (high fidelity) as in reproducing the music as it should 

be(or the producer/musician)intended...



All the so called 5.1 realeases are in actual fact 4.1....The centre channel 

is not used...It is a dialogue channel so has zero relevance to music..In 

fact i can't comment on the .1 bit as my system goes below what subwoofers 

would reproduce...



Unless 320Kb is employed you don't stand a hope in hells chance...DTS (Dolby 

Theatre System)of getting a nice sound out of your system (for surround).



Martin thanks for all the great cds chap...Good luck with Air 5....If this 

all goes pear shaped let me know...





From: "GREG HILL" <cameron69 at comcast.net>

To: "Trevor Cordes" <trevor at tecnopolis.ca>,"Fax List" <faxlist at 2350.org>

Subject: Re: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ?

Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:45:53 -0800





Trevor, you don't know anyone who purchases music digitally?  with Ipods so 

popular(go to your nearest gym), most people are getting their mp3s from the 

Apple store, or some other mp3 site on the web. With record stores closing 

left and right, most people who enjoy listening to music, do not buy cds, as 

much as they do mp3s. Would other people agree with me on this point?





----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Cordes" <trevor at tecnopolis.ca>

To: "Fax List" <faxlist at 2350.org>

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:13 PM

Subject: Re: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ?





>On 15 Jan, GREG HILL wrote:

>>how often does Namlook sell 1000 cds anyway(let alone ones that cost

>>$25)? I bet its rare.

>

>Remember, he doesn't have to sell them to end users, just to disties and

>record shops!  If they sit on 100's of store's shelves then as far as

>he's concerned he's sold 1000.  Of course, I have no problem believing

>that it doesn't take too long for FAX to sell most of the copies into

>the hands of actual end users.  Sure, some titles may take forever to

>sell, but those must be the minority.

>

>Remember, he did 2000 and 3000 limitations for a while!

>

>>Especially since almost everyone who purchases

>>music nowadays does it via the internet and mp3 sites.

>

>I'm not sure that statement is true!  I don't know anyone who buys music

>exclusively digitally, and I barely know anyone who buys any music

>digitally!

>

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