From horizonmusic at juno.com Mon Jan 1 15:16:56 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Mon Jan 1 16:05:23 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: faxlist Digest, Vol 2, Issue 149 Message-ID: <20070101.160246.2288.1.horizonmusic@juno.com> 25? I'm not sure what the number has to do with a dual disc format. Chris L. "Martin Jones" wrote: >>But will they all be 25 is what I wanna know!! << brian@lists.frickster.net responded: >>Given that the new Gate Zero is not, I'd assume that the PWs will not be released in dual format. << From horizonmusic at juno.com Mon Jan 1 15:17:12 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Mon Jan 1 16:05:25 2007 Subject: (fax) Tetsu Inoue - World Receiver Message-ID: <20070101.160246.2288.2.horizonmusic@juno.com> I clicked on the link but didn't see the cover artwork. Is it somewhere else? Chris L. Krackmonster wrote: >>very nice just looking at the cover, I love the artwork on this edition Pls ppl, announce more FAX-like stuff :) << Dave at FAX USA wrote: >>Not FAX, but FAX-like, and a FAX artist. We'll be getting copies of this classic CD by Inoue (originally released in 1996) around 12/18. You can order it here: http://www.ear-rational.com/detail.php?id=30649 From horizonmusic at juno.com Mon Jan 1 16:01:48 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Mon Jan 1 16:05:29 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: faxlist Digest, Vol 2, Issue 158 Message-ID: <20070101.160246.2288.6.horizonmusic@juno.com> OG?? Chris L. (on a roll looking for acronym meanings these past couple days...) "Alex Rouse" wrote: >>Sadly due to financial reasons I had to sell my OG copies of 2350 2 and 3. << From horizonmusic at juno.com Mon Jan 1 15:47:52 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Mon Jan 1 16:05:30 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: Tetsu on Fax again? Message-ID: <20070101.160246.2288.4.horizonmusic@juno.com> What I find most interesting about this is the fact that you and Jack both have 'ambient' in your e-mail address now. Hmmmm, there's money to be made here somehow... Chris L. From: ambient wrote: >>does anyone remember this thread from 2002; > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:35:16 -0800 (PST) > From: ambient > Subject: (fax) scoUt places a bet > > does anyone or many want to bet me? > >Tetsu Inoue will be on the label again in 2003. >in any form. > >$25 >paypal payable one year from now > >an takers? > >are you chicken? > >come on? > jackthetab's reply; >Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 14:51:41 -0500 >From: "jackthetab" >Subject: Re: (fax) scoUt places a bet > >I hope not, because when Tetsu is solo his works >are sub par and rather boring. If he were to play >with Namlook, that would be his only saving grace. > > >kunst und wahnsinn, > jackthetab my guess took another 3+ years when others thought it was impossible. as for jackthetab, he nailed his guess. yet, i am SURE we will see Solo Inoue stuff in 2007 on FAX. can anyone doubt it at this point? << From lx at neurowerx.de Mon Jan 1 16:17:33 2007 From: lx at neurowerx.de (Alexander S. Kunz) Date: Mon Jan 1 16:17:39 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: faxlist Digest, Vol 2, Issue 149 (whatever the original subject was, its lost) In-Reply-To: <20070101.160246.2288.1.horizonmusic@juno.com> References: <20070101.160246.2288.1.horizonmusic@juno.com> Message-ID: <1674375248.20070101221733@neurowerx.de> Hello Chris Lawless & everyone else 01-Jan-2007 21:16, you wrote: >>But will they all be 25 is what I wanna know!! << > 25? I'm not sure what the number has to do with a dual disc format. The price. 25 Euro. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Things always seem darkest just before the bottom drops out. -- Arthur Lifshin From lx at neurowerx.de Mon Jan 1 16:18:17 2007 From: lx at neurowerx.de (Alexander S. Kunz) Date: Mon Jan 1 16:18:21 2007 Subject: Ori Gami (Re: (fax) Re: faxlist Digest, Vol 2, Issue 158) In-Reply-To: <20070101.160246.2288.6.horizonmusic@juno.com> References: <20070101.160246.2288.6.horizonmusic@juno.com> Message-ID: <798295840.20070101221817@neurowerx.de> Hello Chris Lawless & everyone else 01-Jan-2007 22:01, you wrote: >> Sadly due to financial reasons I had to sell my OG copies of 2350 2 and > OG?? Ori Ginal? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The belief that disembodied spirits may be permitted to revisit this world has it's foundation upon the sublime hope of immortality, which is at once the chief solace and greatest triumph of all our reason. -- Charles MacKay From riouxs at aol.com Mon Jan 1 21:54:39 2007 From: riouxs at aol.com (riouxs@aol.com) Date: Mon Jan 1 21:55:05 2007 Subject: (fax) Tetsu Inoue - World Receiver In-Reply-To: <20070101.160246.2288.2.horizonmusic@juno.com> References: <20070101.160246.2288.2.horizonmusic@juno.com> Message-ID: <8C8FC307AFABD03-1634-3F4@mblk-d44.sysops.aol.com> The front panel is here : http://www.infractionrecords.com/newsinfraction.html I'll be happy to put up all 6 panels on the site if anyone's interested. Jason infractionrecords.com -----Original Message----- From: horizonmusic@juno.com To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 3:17 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Tetsu Inoue - World Receiver I clicked on the link but didn't see the cover artwork. Is it somewhere else? Chris L. Krackmonster wrote: >>very nice just looking at the cover, I love the artwork on this edition Pls ppl, announce more FAX-like stuff :) << Dave at FAX USA wrote: >>Not FAX, but FAX-like, and a FAX artist. We'll be getting copies of this classic CD by Inoue (originally released in 1996) around 12/18. You can order it here: http://www.ear-rational.com/detail.php?id=30649 _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070101/1c39f41e/attachment.htm From trevor at tecnopolis.ca Tue Jan 2 04:59:23 2007 From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes) Date: Tue Jan 2 04:59:33 2007 Subject: (fax) holy cow - boxset $2k Message-ID: <200701020959.l029xNa8025062@pog.tecnopolis.ca> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170064751157 I don't know the value of the vinyl, but I'm thinking $2k is a bit excessive? From trevor at tecnopolis.ca Tue Jan 2 06:52:57 2007 From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes) Date: Tue Jan 2 06:53:03 2007 Subject: (fax) Smart + Talking Heads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200701021152.l02BqvqM032107@pog.tecnopolis.ca> On 11 Jul, Dave at Fax USA wrote: > I've really been digging "Smart" lately. It was one of those CDs I > dismissed at first, and now, revisiting it, I think it's pretty great. Had a chance to give Smart a coupld of spins. I don't listen to this one often as it didn't score much more than average on my first listen. But it turns out you're very right: this one deserves more airtime. > The album starts off with Strakita which is a nice plodding ambient > track with slightly echoed piano. I like the New Composers use of > piano, although the piano itself is the least ambient part of their > work. This is not Harold Budd territory, folks. Yes, the piano works well for them. It lends them an old-fashioned feel. > I won't review every track, but the 4th track, "Palace of Friendship on > Fontanka" is really, really nice. Dreamy ambience, again with the > piano, waves, some bird sounds (or are they some sort of water animal, > like a walrus?). Almost cliched in the combination of sounds, but they > do it up nice. Funny you single out t4. My mom was by and heard the track and said she really liked it. I'm not sure if that's a good thing! It, like much of the album, approaches new age / HoS (the label) territory. That's not necessarily bad, as I used to like NA/HoS/Narada quite a lot. But maybe that's what turned me off to it a few years ago when I was looking for something more meaty. Hehe, I thought at first the "walrus sounds" you were referring to were the childrens' laughs. But I see you meant the sounds closer to the end. Reminds me of gulls, but who knows. Sounds synthesize and not sampled? As a whole, very Eno-y. > A couple of tracks are beat-driven, danceable pieces (324-A and Adept) > which flow really well. 324-A is another winner here. Very very in the Advanced Indigo direction. Simple beat, almost cheesy simple, but it works. > Adept is really a catchy track, again with > piano, some Asian instruments (Shakuhachi, maybe?) Yes, another AI precursor. Definitely does have that "Peanuts" sound as John Whitney pointed out. > and a nice little > "click" here and there. There is a standard drum track, but that > "click" is really cool. Little elements like that can really add to a > track in my opinion, even though it's a simple sound. I'm sure most of us here will agree with you that it's a little nothing in a track that will often make the track. A buddy and I figured out over years ago that we'll listen to 5 minutes of build just to get a little blip or click that lasts maybe 2 seconds, and that will make the whole track (I believe we specifically had Autechre in mind at the time). I think this oddity may be unique to electronic music lovers. > There is some weird stuff here, including Sirens of Titan, which could > find a home on any adult easy-listening station I think Sirens might be one of my fave tracks on this one! It's got that cool crackly 30's feel to it. But you're right, very easy-l. t3 (those chords!) is straight out of Lanz-era Narada pianoscapes. > Eno's contribution (Long SQ, Short SQ, and La-La-La) is nice, to be > sure, but probably not required listening except for perhaps an Eno La-la-la is very nice. You can definitely hear the Eno. A real gem. So, thanks Dave as because of you Smart will get more playtime rather than the ignore-treatment. Lastly, I don't want to start an OT thread, but I just picked up Talking Heads - Remain in Light (1980). It's co-written/produced by Eno. I'm seriously blown away by this album. I never really listened to the Talking Heads before, besides what radio play they may have gotten in the 80's. I'm shocked how "advanced" it sounds, for 1980. The quality is superb. There are lots of "modern" electronicisms happening in there. Track 4 blows my mind. The dropping bass (Move D anyone?), the synths, the ambient backdrop, the semi-abstract nature of it. Play it REAL loud in the car and turn up the AudioControl Epicenter on the 15" sub. Tracks 1-3 are also great. I'm working on the rest. Anyone else listen to this stuff? Anyone else go ever back to the 70's and 80's and find some interesting gems hidden in the "pop" deluge? From trevor at tecnopolis.ca Tue Jan 2 06:54:51 2007 From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes) Date: Tue Jan 2 06:54:55 2007 Subject: (fax) Ruxpin - Avalon Message-ID: <200701021154.l02BspLp032171@pog.tecnopolis.ca> If anyone here has Ruxpin - Avalon and knows how to use EAC (or similar), please email me! t13 refuses to rip for me... Grrrr. From martin.t.jones at gmail.com Tue Jan 2 09:58:20 2007 From: martin.t.jones at gmail.com (Martin Jones) Date: Tue Jan 2 09:58:52 2007 Subject: (fax) Smart + Talking Heads In-Reply-To: <200701021152.l02BqvqM032107@pog.tecnopolis.ca> References: <200701021152.l02BqvqM032107@pog.tecnopolis.ca> Message-ID: <13a7b53b0701020658i7c150c3j71d2b749e6b504e4@mail.gmail.com> Also a Smart fan...especially Friendship thingy... On 1/2/07, Trevor Cordes wrote: > > On 11 Jul, Dave at Fax USA wrote: > > I've really been digging "Smart" lately. It was one of those CDs I > > dismissed at first, and now, revisiting it, I think it's pretty great. > > reply things> > > Had a chance to give Smart a coupld of spins. I don't listen to this > one often as it didn't score much more than average on my first listen. > But it turns out you're very right: this one deserves more airtime. > > > The album starts off with Strakita which is a nice plodding ambient > > track with slightly echoed piano. I like the New Composers use of > > piano, although the piano itself is the least ambient part of their > > work. This is not Harold Budd territory, folks. > > Yes, the piano works well for them. It lends them an old-fashioned > feel. > > > I won't review every track, but the 4th track, "Palace of Friendship on > > Fontanka" is really, really nice. Dreamy ambience, again with the > > piano, waves, some bird sounds (or are they some sort of water animal, > > like a walrus?). Almost cliched in the combination of sounds, but they > > do it up nice. > > Funny you single out t4. My mom was by and heard the track and said she > really liked it. I'm not sure if that's a good thing! It, like much of > the album, approaches new age / HoS (the label) territory. That's not > necessarily bad, as I used to like NA/HoS/Narada quite a lot. But maybe > that's what turned me off to it a few years ago when I was looking for > something more meaty. > > Hehe, I thought at first the "walrus sounds" you were referring to were > the childrens' laughs. But I see you meant the sounds closer to the > end. Reminds me of gulls, but who knows. Sounds synthesize and not > sampled? As a whole, very Eno-y. > > > A couple of tracks are beat-driven, danceable pieces (324-A and Adept) > > which flow really well. > > 324-A is another winner here. Very very in the Advanced Indigo > direction. Simple beat, almost cheesy simple, but it works. > > > Adept is really a catchy track, again with > > piano, some Asian instruments (Shakuhachi, maybe?) > > Yes, another AI precursor. Definitely does have that "Peanuts" sound as > John Whitney pointed out. > > > and a nice little > > "click" here and there. There is a standard drum track, but that > > "click" is really cool. Little elements like that can really add to a > > track in my opinion, even though it's a simple sound. > > I'm sure most of us here will agree with you that it's a little nothing > in a track that will often make the track. A buddy and I figured out > over years ago that we'll listen to 5 minutes of build just to get a > little blip or click that lasts maybe 2 seconds, and that will make the > whole track (I believe we specifically had Autechre in mind at the > time). I think this oddity may be unique to electronic music lovers. > > > There is some weird stuff here, including Sirens of Titan, which could > > find a home on any adult easy-listening station > > I think Sirens might be one of my fave tracks on this one! It's got > that cool crackly 30's feel to it. But you're right, very easy-l. > > t3 (those chords!) is straight out of Lanz-era Narada pianoscapes. > > > Eno's contribution (Long SQ, Short SQ, and La-La-La) is nice, to be > > sure, but probably not required listening except for perhaps an Eno > > La-la-la is very nice. You can definitely hear the Eno. A real gem. > > So, thanks Dave as because of you Smart will get more playtime rather > than the ignore-treatment. > > Lastly, I don't want to start an OT thread, but I just picked up Talking > Heads - Remain in Light (1980). It's co-written/produced by Eno. I'm > seriously blown away by this album. I never really listened to the > Talking Heads before, besides what radio play they may have gotten in > the 80's. I'm shocked how "advanced" it sounds, for 1980. The quality > is superb. There are lots of "modern" electronicisms happening in > there. Track 4 blows my mind. The dropping bass (Move D anyone?), the > synths, the ambient backdrop, the semi-abstract nature of it. Play it > REAL loud in the car and turn up the AudioControl Epicenter on the 15" > sub. Tracks 1-3 are also great. I'm working on the rest. > > Anyone else listen to this stuff? Anyone else go ever back to the 70's > and 80's and find some interesting gems hidden in the "pop" deluge? > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070102/20fd0fd6/attachment.htm From martin.t.jones at gmail.com Tue Jan 2 10:02:49 2007 From: martin.t.jones at gmail.com (Martin Jones) Date: Tue Jan 2 10:02:53 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: faxlist Digest, Vol 2, Issue 149 (whatever the original subject was, its lost) In-Reply-To: <1674375248.20070101221733@neurowerx.de> References: <20070101.160246.2288.1.horizonmusic@juno.com> <1674375248.20070101221733@neurowerx.de> Message-ID: <13a7b53b0701020702i31dd2a34s1fd58a61ee483ba1@mail.gmail.com> And will people stop blithely referring to it as if it's just $25! Apparently, there is a world outside the US! :-) At the current exchange rate, DTS releases (for which I have no use, as if anyone on here doesn't know!) cost me $35.46 including postage...and yet I'm STILL not complaining, merely noting :-) On 1/1/07, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > > Hello Chris Lawless & everyone else > > 01-Jan-2007 21:16, you wrote: > > >>But will they all be 25 is what I wanna know!! << > > > 25? I'm not sure what the number has to do with a dual disc format. > > The price. 25 Euro. > > -- > Best regards, > Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) > > Things always seem darkest just before the bottom drops out. -- Arthur > Lifshin > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070102/c582720e/attachment.htm From gbanting at gmail.com Tue Jan 2 10:51:09 2007 From: gbanting at gmail.com (Graham Banting) Date: Tue Jan 2 10:51:16 2007 Subject: (fax) holy cow - boxset $2k In-Reply-To: <200701020959.l029xNa8025062@pog.tecnopolis.ca> References: <200701020959.l029xNa8025062@pog.tecnopolis.ca> Message-ID: <28125fa70701020751n28c99575y19c891be6fe6e030@mail.gmail.com> There's lots of guys on Ebay (and GEMM) who try to sell FAX stuff way above market price. I've always wondered how much they end up losing on listing fees before they catch the hint. On 1/2/07, Trevor Cordes wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170064751157 > > I don't know the value of the vinyl, but I'm thinking $2k is a bit > excessive? > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070102/335b1b41/attachment.htm From gbanting at gmail.com Tue Jan 2 10:51:58 2007 From: gbanting at gmail.com (Graham Banting) Date: Tue Jan 2 10:52:10 2007 Subject: (fax) Ruxpin - Avalon In-Reply-To: <200701021154.l02BspLp032171@pog.tecnopolis.ca> References: <200701021154.l02BspLp032171@pog.tecnopolis.ca> Message-ID: <28125fa70701020751r665c08b0ib1b99b6e8e04b639@mail.gmail.com> Try using iTunes. Oh wait..... On 1/2/07, Trevor Cordes wrote: > > If anyone here has Ruxpin - Avalon and knows how to use EAC (or > similar), please email me! t13 refuses to rip for me... Grrrr. > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070102/99303104/attachment.htm From lx at neurowerx.de Tue Jan 2 12:12:00 2007 From: lx at neurowerx.de (Alexander S. Kunz) Date: Tue Jan 2 12:12:18 2007 Subject: (fax) faxlist Digest, Vol 2, Issue 149 (whatever the original subject was, its lost) In-Reply-To: <13a7b53b0701020702i31dd2a34s1fd58a61ee483ba1@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070101.160246.2288.1.horizonmusic@juno.com> <1674375248.20070101221733@neurowerx.de> <13a7b53b0701020702i31dd2a34s1fd58a61ee483ba1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1659316231.20070102181200@neurowerx.de> Hello Martin Jones & everyone else 02-Jan-2007 16:02, you wrote: > At the current exchange rate, DTS releases (for which I have no use, as if > anyone on here doesn't know!) cost me $35.46 including postage...and yet I'm > STILL not complaining, merely noting :-) I thought you were living in Berlin, why are you shopping CDs in US$? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Kids are always the only future the human race has. -- William Saroyan From ghendershot at gmx.de Tue Jan 2 16:08:40 2007 From: ghendershot at gmx.de (Gary Hendershot) Date: Tue Jan 2 16:15:44 2007 Subject: (fax) DSotM ripoff? In-Reply-To: <20061008213234.GA9083@pog.tecnopolis.ca> References: <20061008213234.GA9083@pog.tecnopolis.ca> Message-ID: <20070102210840.214410@gmx.net> -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 16:32:34 -0500 Von: Trevor Cordes An: Fax List Betreff: (fax) DSotM ripoff? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160036975814 > > Check out the title of track #1! If the release date is correct, looks > like they ripped it off PK! > ================================================================= I can't speak for Herr Namlook, but Colosseum II came up with that title "Dark Side Of The Moog" back in 1976. By the way, I believe I mentioned this fact about the first usage of DSotM once or twice around here in the distant past. By the way, for the curious, Colosseum II's "Strange New Flesh" is *not* a very good album. Their first two albums "Electric Savage" and "Wardance" are a lot better. Colosseum II are all about jazz-rock fusion, with the emphasis on rock. -- C:\Gary H@> http://www.garyhendershot.com/ ghenders@gary-hendershot.com ghendershot@gmx.de (junk mail) Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal f?r Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From riouxs at aol.com Tue Jan 2 18:14:44 2007 From: riouxs at aol.com (riouxs@aol.com) Date: Tue Jan 2 18:15:09 2007 Subject: (fax) Smart + Talking Heads In-Reply-To: <200701021152.l02BqvqM032107@pog.tecnopolis.ca> Message-ID: <8C8FCDAEC9D288D-1634-3E0F@mblk-d44.sysops.aol.com> Since we're harking back to the sunny days of July and someone mentioned Russian electronica (sort of) -- has anyone here heard Syntetika's "time and space"? They self-released it a few years back. Their first full-length called "100% syntetika" on Shaped Harmonics was such a great disc...I was curious about this one. I've written to them a few times with no response. Trevor, if you want to wait until August '07 to reply, that's fine :) Jason infractionrecords.com -----Original Message----- From: trevor@tecnopolis.ca To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 6:52 AM Subject: Re: (fax) Smart + Talking Heads On 11 Jul, Dave at Fax USA wrote: > I've really been digging "Smart" lately. It was one of those CDs I > dismissed at first, and now, revisiting it, I think it's pretty great. Had a chance to give Smart a coupld of spins. I don't listen to this one often as it didn't score much more than average on my first listen. But it turns out you're very right: this one deserves more airtime. > The album starts off with Strakita which is a nice plodding ambient > track with slightly echoed piano. I like the New Composers use of > piano, although the piano itself is the least ambient part of their > work. This is not Harold Budd territory, folks. Yes, the piano works well for them. It lends them an old-fashioned feel. > I won't review every track, but the 4th track, "Palace of Friendship on > Fontanka" is really, really nice. Dreamy ambience, again with the > piano, waves, some bird sounds (or are they some sort of water animal, > like a walrus?). Almost cliched in the combination of sounds, but they > do it up nice. Funny you single out t4. My mom was by and heard the track and said she really liked it. I'm not sure if that's a good thing! It, like much of the album, approaches new age / HoS (the label) territory. That's not necessarily bad, as I used to like NA/HoS/Narada quite a lot. But maybe that's what turned me off to it a few years ago when I was looking for something more meaty. Hehe, I thought at first the "walrus sounds" you were referring to were the childrens' laughs. But I see you meant the sounds closer to the end. Reminds me of gulls, but who knows. Sounds synthesize and not sampled? As a whole, very Eno-y. > A couple of tracks are beat-driven, danceable pieces (324-A and Adept) > which flow really well. 324-A is another winner here. Very very in the Advanced Indigo direction. Simple beat, almost cheesy simple, but it works. > Adept is really a catchy track, again with > piano, some Asian instruments (Shakuhachi, maybe?) Yes, another AI precursor. Definitely does have that "Peanuts" sound as John Whitney pointed out. > and a nice little > "click" here and there. There is a standard drum track, but that > "click" is really cool. Little elements like that can really add to a > track in my opinion, even though it's a simple sound. I'm sure most of us here will agree with you that it's a little nothing in a track that will often make the track. A buddy and I figured out over years ago that we'll listen to 5 minutes of build just to get a little blip or click that lasts maybe 2 seconds, and that will make the whole track (I believe we specifically had Autechre in mind at the time). I think this oddity may be unique to electronic music lovers. > There is some weird stuff here, including Sirens of Titan, which could > find a home on any adult easy-listening station I think Sirens might be one of my fave tracks on this one! It's got that cool crackly 30's feel to it. But you're right, very easy-l. t3 (those chords!) is straight out of Lanz-era Narada pianoscapes. > Eno's contribution (Long SQ, Short SQ, and La-La-La) is nice, to be > sure, but probably not required listening except for perhaps an Eno La-la-la is very nice. You can definitely hear the Eno. A real gem. So, thanks Dave as because of you Smart will get more playtime rather than the ignore-treatment. Lastly, I don't want to start an OT thread, but I just picked up Talking Heads - Remain in Light (1980). It's co-written/produced by Eno. I'm seriously blown away by this album. I never really listened to the Talking Heads before, besides what radio play they may have gotten in the 80's. I'm shocked how "advanced" it sounds, for 1980. The quality is superb. There are lots of "modern" electronicisms happening in there. Track 4 blows my mind. The dropping bass (Move D anyone?), the synths, the ambient backdrop, the semi-abstract nature of it. Play it REAL loud in the car and turn up the AudioControl Epicenter on the 15" sub. Tracks 1-3 are also great. I'm working on the rest. Anyone else listen to this stuff? Anyone else go ever back to the 70's and 80's and find some interesting gems hidden in the "pop" deluge? _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070102/05ee2c3b/attachment-0001.htm From thesorus at gmail.com Wed Jan 3 12:59:46 2007 From: thesorus at gmail.com (Max Lincourt) Date: Wed Jan 3 13:00:00 2007 Subject: (fax) Latest Fax Batch quickies Message-ID: <78e0cb140701030959p588725a3l301a0abfa4bd57d8@mail.gmail.com> I finally received my Fax CD batch, in a beat up package, courtesy of Canada postal dis-service. luckilly, only one of the jewel cases was damaged and all the discs are fine. a mix of new and old releases Gorl & Namlook - Elektro : A lot more harder then I expected. Namlook - Air 5 : Yeah, we're back in business, I was a bit sceptical about Tying Tiffany's collaboration, but it turnes out ok. Move D & Namlook - Home Shopping : too loungy/jazzy in some parts, but the last track makes it up for me. Prochir & Namlook - Possible Gardens : I really need to have a good listen to that one, a bit too "closed" at first listen. Move D & Namlook - Space & Time : 3 long tracks, more groovy while not too jazzy; interresting. On the DTS vs. Stereo debate, I can see how this can/could enhance a release like Air 5, but maybe not for Space & Time which is a lot more musical in a live band kind of way. Note that I don't yet have a DTS system, and Am listening to the CDs on headphones right now; will have to wait untill I get home to give them a listen on a real stereo system. BTW, is friday still the Fax Day ? me think to remember that it's the first friday of the year. From istenrud at chello.no Wed Jan 3 13:30:42 2007 From: istenrud at chello.no (eyevar) Date: Wed Jan 3 13:30:51 2007 Subject: (fax) Latest Fax + Last.fm Message-ID: <20070103183042.MSNY23846.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@localhost> Air 5 is rather excellent - I even find myself not always skipping the "loungy, jazzy" track. ;-) Some fantastic deep and rich soundscapes on the cd and just the right amount of beats and eastern influences here and there. Also had a listen to Ethereal Being from the forthcoming 2350 Broadway 4 on Namlook's myspace, and it sounds really really good.. Seems we'll be getting some classic Fax stuff in 2007! BTW for all the people on the list listening to Fax on their computers/ipods, check out the music community at http://www.last.fm and join the group http://www.last.fm/group/FAX+49-69450464 The site is great fun but we need more faxheads :-) I. > Fra: "Max Lincourt" > Dato: 2007/01/03 Wed PM 06:59:46 CET > > Namlook - Air 5 : Yeah, we're back in business, I was a bit sceptical > about Tying Tiffany's collaboration, but it turnes out ok. From ambient at yahoo.com Wed Jan 3 23:35:27 2007 From: ambient at yahoo.com (ambient) Date: Wed Jan 3 23:35:43 2007 Subject: (fax) "Winter" for sale In-Reply-To: <20061231.180035.2960.49.horizonmusic@juno.com> Message-ID: <891810.79904.qm@web34701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> $49.99 opening bid; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250069735783 > They seem to be completely ass backwards in how > they enforce policies. Like canceling listings shortly after they are posted instead of not allowing standard shipping to be $7 in the first place. On other ebay side notes; They canceled more of my listings for this; " "The listing was removed because it violated the eBay Accepted Payments policy. The violation occurred when you included the following information in your listing: Cash in a registered letter Euro, Yen, Dollar" " apparently, they have left there roots when 8 years ago that was the only way to pay and things were much simpler and trustworthy. To many people abusing the system now to let cash be a suggested form of payment. So, when you list from now on, don't put cash as an accepted form or the listings will be canceled. Second note, their fees are going up AGAIN affecting the small guys; Insertion Fee Starting Price: $1.00 - $9.99 $0.40 $0.35 Final Value Fee Selling Price: $25.01 - $1000.00 3.25% 3% __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From cameron69 at comcast.net Thu Jan 4 01:32:55 2007 From: cameron69 at comcast.net (GREG HILL) Date: Thu Jan 4 01:33:40 2007 Subject: (fax) weird, though unsurprising References: <19110645414.20061224032218@benthic.cc> Message-ID: <024501c72fca$3f16da30$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> been out of town for the holidays and have been cleaning out my inbox, saw this message and wanted to respond(not many other's have)...I got this Enigma cd a few months ago, its pretty good. I especially like the last song(forget the name now). I would rate this better than the previous 2-3 cds. ----- Original Message ----- From: "micah stupak" To: "faxfolk" Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:22 AM Subject: (fax) weird, though unsurprising > the new enigma album is not that bad...it's not as lame as the past > few have been, anyway, and has some interesting moments. thing is, > though, it really has a distinct FAX influence on it. i'd say air > I/II, possible gardens, virtual vices... > > has anyone else heard it? > > -- > micah stupak > micah@benthic.cc > www.benthic.cc > benthic recordings - soundings from unexplored places > oblique strategy: define an area as `safe' and use it as an anchor > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist From sanvara at cox.net Thu Jan 4 03:11:35 2007 From: sanvara at cox.net (sanvara) Date: Thu Jan 4 03:11:54 2007 Subject: (fax) weird, though unsurprising References: <19110645414.20061224032218@benthic.cc> <024501c72fca$3f16da30$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> Message-ID: <001a01c72fd7$f3ab9190$020ba8c0@conroe> I just gave the new Enigma a listen. My subjective opinion is it's ok. Some of it is awful. It still sounds like they are producing pretty homogenized and lightweight music to me. I much prefer the new Gate Zero which I am listening to now. :-) From: "GREG HILL" > > been out of town for the holidays and have been cleaning out my inbox, saw > this message and wanted to respond(not many other's have)...I got this > Enigma cd a few months ago, its pretty good. I especially like the last > song(forget the name now). I would rate this better than the previous 2-3 > cds. From jimbogreenman at yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 09:01:53 2007 From: jimbogreenman at yahoo.com (Jim Greenman) Date: Thu Jan 4 09:02:08 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Message-ID: <693108.83110.qm@web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Whenever I try to record a CD which has continuous music, Musicmatch puts a gap between the songs. Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? 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URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070104/5ab43b04/attachment.htm From theREALmxyzptlk at comcast.net Thu Jan 4 09:15:06 2007 From: theREALmxyzptlk at comcast.net (theREALmxyzptlk) Date: Thu Jan 4 09:15:48 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip In-Reply-To: <693108.83110.qm@web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <693108.83110.qm@web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <459D0BEA.1010602@comcast.net> Jim Greenman wrote: > Whenever I try to record a CD which has continuous music, Musicmatch > puts a gap between the songs. > > Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? > I don't use that app, but the great majority of burning programs will allow one to tweak that in the settings (look under "settings" or "options" or "tools" - these are sometimes in the edit menu); sometimes it is listed as 'remove gap', sometimes you have to re-set the pause at "0" instead of the default "2" seconds (the very first track needs that 2 second pause before it starts). Also, make sure that you are recording/burning in DAO (disc at once) mode rather than TAO (track at once), as TAO turns off the laser between tracks and inserts said gap automatically. DAO keeps the laser on and inserts no gaps. The other alternative would be to rip the entire disc as an image file and then burn from the image. Relatively speaking, you'll get more reliable burns (far less chance of buffer underrun) if you rip the disc to your hard drive before burning it anyway. I know on-the fly burning is less risky than it was back in the paleolithic era (the 90s :-), but I find ripping the thing before I burn it a better quality process on the whole. Aside from that, you might want to investigate other apps (Nero would be one of them) if MMJB does not readily yield to tweaking. The learning curve on burning apps is not hard to traverse and once you learn one, you pretty much know them all. jeff From aaj at centrum.is Thu Jan 4 10:44:26 2007 From: aaj at centrum.is (Agust A J) Date: Thu Jan 4 10:51:27 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip In-Reply-To: <459D0BEA.1010602@comcast.net> References: <693108.83110.qm@web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <459D0BEA.1010602@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070104154328.0204bc28@centrum.is> try EAC (exactaudiocopy), it supports burning cds too, including setting up tracks & gaps between tracks etc. and is free, unlike nero ^-^ --- Agust "nemesis1" - aaj@centrum.is - http://www.rainemu.com/nemesis1 From MuzikJunky at earthlink.net Thu Jan 4 15:54:50 2007 From: MuzikJunky at earthlink.net (MuzikJunky) Date: Thu Jan 4 15:55:10 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip In-Reply-To: <693108.83110.qm@web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <693108.83110.qm@web39514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9ea9cb701ec7cb813e5173e1b135c3da@earthlink.net> > Whenever I try to record a CD which has continuous music, Musicmatch > puts a gap between the songs. > ? > Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? Use iTunes 7, and mark the tracks as being a part of a gapless album. Set the gap to 0 seconds before burning. You'll get track marks, and the music will play continuously. Peace. From cameron69 at comcast.net Thu Jan 4 16:50:31 2007 From: cameron69 at comcast.net (GREG HILL) Date: Thu Jan 4 16:50:59 2007 Subject: (fax) weird, though unsurprising References: <19110645414.20061224032218@benthic.cc><024501c72fca$3f16da30$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> <001a01c72fd7$f3ab9190$020ba8c0@conroe> Message-ID: <005101c7304a$671b3d20$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> haha..nice! yeah, it isn't considered groundbreaking "underground electronica". Enigma has always been a group that has tried the commercial electronic approach. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sanvara" To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:11 AM Subject: Re: (fax) weird, though unsurprising >I just gave the new Enigma a listen. My subjective opinion is it's ok. Some >of it is awful. It still sounds like they are producing pretty homogenized >and lightweight music to me. > > I much prefer the new Gate Zero which I am listening to now. :-) > > > From: "GREG HILL" > >> >> been out of town for the holidays and have been cleaning out my inbox, >> saw this message and wanted to respond(not many other's have)...I got >> this Enigma cd a few months ago, its pretty good. I especially like the >> last song(forget the name now). I would rate this better than the >> previous 2-3 cds. > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist From andrewdk at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 4 21:36:58 2007 From: andrewdk at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Keyser) Date: Thu Jan 4 21:37:15 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Message-ID: <20070105023658.49246.qmail@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Don't use MP3. Simple as that... use a program and file format that properly supports "gapless" playback, such as Ogg Vorbis (if you want it compressed like MP3 is) or FLAC (if you want it full quality like WAV is, at roughly half the file size of WAV) for the file format, and EAC for the ripper. At your option, you could use iTunes, if you want to be locked into their proprietary file format kingdom. Ogg Vorbis and FLAC are both free, open source codecs. MP3, without any special extensions, is fundamentally unable to play without a gap between two seperate songs and the "remove gap" features of audio players is artificial and may not be entirely accurate (not removing enough of the gap, or removing too much, cutting into "real" audio). The LAME MP3 encoder can encode data about the end of the track in the header so that a program that understands these special instructions can accurately remove any gap, but it's still just a workaround for a flaw in the way MP3 is designed. Andrew Keyser ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Greenman To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 8:01:53 AM Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Whenever I try to record a CD which has continuous music, Musicmatch puts a gap between the songs. Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070104/f4565857/attachment.htm From gbanting at gmail.com Thu Jan 4 22:41:49 2007 From: gbanting at gmail.com (Graham Banting) Date: Thu Jan 4 22:41:53 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip References: <20070105023658.49246.qmail@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c7307b$6fc80a80$6501a8c0@Banting> I call bullshit on that. iTunes version 7.x supports gapless playback just fine. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Keyser To: Jim Greenman ; faxlist@2350.org Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: Re: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Don't use MP3. Simple as that... use a program and file format that properly supports "gapless" playback, such as Ogg Vorbis (if you want it compressed like MP3 is) or FLAC (if you want it full quality like WAV is, at roughly half the file size of WAV) for the file format, and EAC for the ripper. At your option, you could use iTunes, if you want to be locked into their proprietary file format kingdom. Ogg Vorbis and FLAC are both free, open source codecs. MP3, without any special extensions, is fundamentally unable to play without a gap between two seperate songs and the "remove gap" features of audio players is artificial and may not be entirely accurate (not removing enough of the gap, or removing too much, cutting into "real" audio). The LAME MP3 encoder can encode data about the end of the track in the header so that a program that understands these special instructions can accurately remove any gap, but it's still just a workaround for a flaw in the way MP3 is designed. Andrew Keyser ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Greenman To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 8:01:53 AM Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Whenever I try to record a CD which has continuous music, Musicmatch puts a gap between the songs. Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070104/f44dbb55/attachment-0001.htm From micah at benthic.cc Thu Jan 4 22:54:45 2007 From: micah at benthic.cc (micah stupak) Date: Thu Jan 4 22:54:59 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip In-Reply-To: <001301c7307b$6fc80a80$6501a8c0@Banting> References: <20070105023658.49246.qmail@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c7307b$6fc80a80$6501a8c0@Banting> Message-ID: <862719090.20070104225445@benthic.cc> on Thursday, January 4, 2007, Graham Banting wrote... > I call bullshit on that. iTunes version 7.x supports gapless > playback just fine. what part are you calling bullshit on? pretty much any mp3 player does "gapless playback" now - the point was that it's impossible to rip a gapless mp3. mp3s just can't do it, unless you do a .mp3-.cue thing. -- micah stupak micah@benthic.cc www.benthic.cc benthic recordings - soundings from unexplored places oblique strategy: emphasize repetitions From andrewdk at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 5 00:20:29 2007 From: andrewdk at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Keyser) Date: Fri Jan 5 00:20:51 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Message-ID: <20070105052029.68812.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As I said, it can play "gapless", but it's quote "gapless," as in, artificial -- potentially inaccurate removal of gaps by an algorithm. In most cases it's not noticeable, but if you're looking to get true gapless playback, in which the player is able to literally take the beginning of one file and butt it right up against the back end of another, without any ill consequences, MP3 is not the format you're looking for. When I say fundamentally unable, that does not mean it can not be "simulated." Andrew ----- Original Message ---- From: Graham Banting To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 9:41:49 PM Subject: Re: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip DIV { MARGIN:0px;} I call bullshit on that. iTunes version 7.x supports gapless playback just fine. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Keyser To: Jim Greenman ; faxlist@2350.org Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: Re: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Don't use MP3. Simple as that... use a program and file format that properly supports "gapless" playback, such as Ogg Vorbis (if you want it compressed like MP3 is) or FLAC (if you want it full quality like WAV is, at roughly half the file size of WAV) for the file format, and EAC for the ripper. At your option, you could use iTunes, if you want to be locked into their proprietary file format kingdom. Ogg Vorbis and FLAC are both free, open source codecs. MP3, without any special extensions, is fundamentally unable to play without a gap between two seperate songs and the "remove gap" features of audio players is artificial and may not be entirely accurate (not removing enough of the gap, or removing too much, cutting into "real" audio). The LAME MP3 encoder can encode data about the end of the track in the header so that a program that understands these special instructions can accurately remove any gap, but it's still just a workaround for a flaw in the way MP3 is designed. Andrew Keyser ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Greenman To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 8:01:53 AM Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Whenever I try to record a CD which has continuous music, Musicmatch puts a gap between the songs. Does anyone know how to stop this from happening? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070104/17523871/attachment.htm From lx at neurowerx.de Fri Jan 5 12:30:35 2007 From: lx at neurowerx.de (Alexander S. Kunz) Date: Fri Jan 5 12:30:51 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip In-Reply-To: <001301c7307b$6fc80a80$6501a8c0@Banting> References: <20070105023658.49246.qmail@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c7307b$6fc80a80$6501a8c0@Banting> Message-ID: <415130213.20070105183035@neurowerx.de> Hello Graham Banting & everyone else 05-Jan-2007 04:41, you wrote: > I call bullshit on that. iTunes version 7.x supports gapless playback just fine. ...just like Outlook Express is a good email client. SCNR ...hey, its friday! ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) We do not know more about mankind than ancient philosophers did, although we have more details. -- Eugene Weber From andrewdk at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 7 13:27:27 2007 From: andrewdk at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Keyser) Date: Sun Jan 7 13:27:32 2007 Subject: (fax) Solar Fields - Combinations uses parts of DSotM 9 part 1 Message-ID: <20070107182727.99743.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On Solar Field's album Extended, in the 5th track, Combinations, at about 8 minutes in, I hear the very very very familiar drum patterns from DSotM 9 part 1. Another rip off, or just tasteful tip of the hat to Namlook & Schulze? It's not blatantly copied -- it's just the drum pattern extracted. Don't get me wrong, it actually fits quite well. Andrew From lx at neurowerx.de Sun Jan 7 14:46:40 2007 From: lx at neurowerx.de (Alexander S. Kunz) Date: Sun Jan 7 14:46:47 2007 Subject: (fax) Solar Fields - Combinations uses parts of DSotM 9 part 1 In-Reply-To: <20070107182727.99743.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070107182727.99743.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <194918558.20070107204640@neurowerx.de> Hello Andrew Keyser & everyone else 07-Jan-2007 19:27, you wrote: > On Solar Field's album Extended, in the 5th track, Combinations, at > about 8 minutes in, I hear the very very very familiar drum patterns > from DSotM 9 part 1. Another rip off, or just tasteful tip of the hat > to Namlook & Schulze? It's not blatantly copied -- it's just the drum > pattern extracted. Don't get me wrong, it actually fits quite well. I only hear the same sound used for the quasi-snaredrum, but not the same entire drum pattern. A bassdrum is completely missing in the Solar Fields track, for example... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) NP: "Combinations" by Solar Fields from the 2005 release "Extended" From horizonmusic at juno.com Sun Jan 7 16:59:20 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Sun Jan 7 17:26:36 2007 Subject: (fax) Tetsu Inoue - World Receiver Message-ID: <20070107.172446.2928.19.horizonmusic@juno.com> Please do Jason. Thanks!! Chris L. riouxs@aol.com wrote: >>The front panel is here : http://www.infractionrecords.com/newsinfraction.html I'll be happy to put up all 6 panels on the site if anyone's interested. << From horizonmusic at juno.com Sun Jan 7 17:24:46 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Sun Jan 7 17:26:38 2007 Subject: (fax) HoS Message-ID: <20070107.172446.2928.21.horizonmusic@juno.com> And here we go again... :-) HoS?? BTW, thanks to everyone who responded to all my other questions (acronyms, the mysterious number 25, etc). Have to go find that Ori Ginal debut CD now... Chris L. Trevor Cordes wrote: >>Merry Christmas (and all that jazz) to all. Hope you all find a sealed HoS under your tree this year. << From horizonmusic at juno.com Sun Jan 7 17:24:31 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Sun Jan 7 17:26:39 2007 Subject: (fax) holy cow - boxset $2k Message-ID: <20070107.172446.2928.20.horizonmusic@juno.com> I've seen a lot of listings like that lately. I wrote to one guy who was selling an old Michael Shrieve LP I was looking for and asked if he could do better on the price, and I got a very snotty "I'm sure some other seller will be able to accommodate you" response. Later, I found the album at a show for only $10, as well as a whole bunch of other things I was looking for that the seller also happened to be offering. So I wrote back to him, told him how much money I saved by not buying any of his auction, and mentioned that acting like a dick isn't exactly a way to endear people into being buyers. Oddly enough, he got defensive. I can be a bastard sometime. I admit it freely. :-) The best way to drive these kind of prices down is to not purchase anything that's marked up that much. If someone had actually laid out two grand for that box set, it would have set a precedent for that seller to continue to charge exorbitant prices. Better he keep throwing money away on listing fees. Chris L. "Graham Banting" wrote: >>There's lots of guys on Ebay (and GEMM) who try to sell FAX stuff way above market price. I've always wondered how much they end up losing on listing fees before they catch the hint. << Trevor Cordes wrote: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170064751157 I don't know the value of the vinyl, but I'm thinking $2k is a bit excessive? << From lx at neurowerx.de Sun Jan 7 17:37:57 2007 From: lx at neurowerx.de (Alexander S. Kunz) Date: Sun Jan 7 17:38:03 2007 Subject: (fax) HoS In-Reply-To: <20070107.172446.2928.21.horizonmusic@juno.com> References: <20070107.172446.2928.21.horizonmusic@juno.com> Message-ID: <1026609725.20070107233757@neurowerx.de> Hello Chris Lawless & everyone else 07-Jan-2007 23:24, you wrote: > HoS?? Hearts of Space. An album you most likely don't want to have if you haven't been there -OR- are an addicted Fax completist. Melodic early Frankfurt technotrance that built its own clich?, or something like that. ;-) PS: here's a challenge for all completists - get every Fax release TWICE and then try to get the fortune it costed you back by selling only one of them! he-he-he -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Right now I'm having amnesia and deja vu at the same time - I think I've forgotten this before. -- Stephen Wright From jimbogreenman at yahoo.com Mon Jan 8 16:33:13 2007 From: jimbogreenman at yahoo.com (Jim Greenman) Date: Mon Jan 8 16:33:29 2007 Subject: (fax) air V Message-ID: <480631.17495.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think I have to agree that Air V is the best I've heard in a year or so from FAX (I think) but I'm still listening to it. Does anyone know what the lyrics are? Jim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070108/accd2c6b/attachment.htm From cameron69 at comcast.net Mon Jan 8 16:44:13 2007 From: cameron69 at comcast.net (GREG HILL) Date: Mon Jan 8 16:44:54 2007 Subject: (fax) air V References: <480631.17495.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008b01c7336e$2c5a19f0$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> >From the samples on Itunes, it could be good(30 seconds isn't much though). Could someone give me a better idea of the tracks and another(fax) cd it compares to? thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Greenman To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: (fax) air V I think I have to agree that Air V is the best I've heard in a year or so from FAX (I think) but I'm still listening to it. Does anyone know what the lyrics are? Jim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070108/02b1ede2/attachment.htm From trevor at tecnopolis.ca Mon Jan 8 16:57:21 2007 From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes) Date: Mon Jan 8 16:57:30 2007 Subject: (fax) air V In-Reply-To: <480631.17495.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200701082157.l08LvLnU013390@pog.tecnopolis.ca> On 8 Jan, Jim Greenman wrote: > I think I have to agree that Air V is the best I've heard in a year or > so from FAX (I think) but I'm still listening to it. Does anyone know > what the lyrics are? I'm sure at least a few of us are finding this rather amusing. The pre-release buzz here was all negative and apocalyptic. Now that it's out everyone's raving with positive reviews. Since this is nearly a mirror repeat of what happened with Re:Sonate, I'm not terribly surprised, and I think I predicted ahead of the release that this would happen! LOL (PS: I won't have my copy for another couple of weeks...) From cameron69 at comcast.net Mon Jan 8 17:03:32 2007 From: cameron69 at comcast.net (GREG HILL) Date: Mon Jan 8 17:03:54 2007 Subject: (fax) air V References: <480631.17495.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008b01c7336e$2c5a19f0$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> Message-ID: <00a301c73370$df0551d0$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> it seems a though, based from the sample, on itunes, that End of Line is the best track, or possibly Obsessions??? whoever has the cd(or mp3), please chime in. I might be getting this(a rarity lately for fax stuff).. ----- Original Message ----- From: GREG HILL To: Jim Greenman ; faxlist@2350.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: (fax) air V From the samples on Itunes, it could be good(30 seconds isn't much though). Could someone give me a better idea of the tracks and another(fax) cd it compares to? thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Greenman To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: (fax) air V I think I have to agree that Air V is the best I've heard in a year or so from FAX (I think) but I'm still listening to it. Does anyone know what the lyrics are? Jim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070108/2894d67c/attachment.htm From kracker at krackmonster.com Mon Jan 8 17:53:12 2007 From: kracker at krackmonster.com (Krackmonster) Date: Mon Jan 8 17:53:13 2007 Subject: (fax) air V In-Reply-To: <200701082157.l08LvLnU013390@pog.tecnopolis.ca> References: <480631.17495.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200701082157.l08LvLnU013390@pog.tecnopolis.ca> Message-ID: <85130228.20070108165312@krackmonster.com> Really I thought Air V was kinda boring. Currently I'm hooked on Gate Zero's Black Dust, which is awesome. best release from FAX in awhile. Kracker Monday, January 8, 2007, 3:57:21 PM, you wrote: TC> On 8 Jan, Jim Greenman wrote: >> I think I have to agree that Air V is the best I've heard in a year or >> so from FAX (I think) but I'm still listening to it. Does anyone know >> what the lyrics are? TC> I'm sure at least a few of us are finding this rather amusing. The TC> pre-release buzz here was all negative and apocalyptic. Now that it's TC> out everyone's raving with positive reviews. Since this is nearly a TC> mirror repeat of what happened with Re:Sonate, I'm not terribly TC> surprised, and I think I predicted ahead of the release that this would TC> happen! TC> LOL TC> (PS: I won't have my copy for another couple of weeks...) TC> _______________________________________________ TC> faxlist mailing list TC> faxlist@2350.org TC> http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -- Best regards, Krackmonster mailto:kracker@krackmonster.com From gbanting at gmail.com Mon Jan 8 18:02:11 2007 From: gbanting at gmail.com (Graham Banting) Date: Mon Jan 8 18:02:29 2007 Subject: (fax) air V In-Reply-To: <85130228.20070108165312@krackmonster.com> References: <480631.17495.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200701082157.l08LvLnU013390@pog.tecnopolis.ca> <85130228.20070108165312@krackmonster.com> Message-ID: <28125fa70701081502u19ee2050m8b40bcb4454620d0@mail.gmail.com> I'm the other way. Gate Zero doesn't do much for me at all, while Air V after a couple of listens is pretty good. GB On 1/8/07, Krackmonster wrote: > > > Really I thought Air V was kinda boring. Currently I'm hooked on Gate > Zero's Black Dust, which is awesome. best release from FAX > in awhile. > > Kracker > > Monday, January 8, 2007, 3:57:21 PM, you wrote: > > TC> On 8 Jan, Jim Greenman wrote: > >> I think I have to agree that Air V is the best I've heard in a year or > >> so from FAX (I think) but I'm still listening to it. Does anyone know > >> what the lyrics are? > > TC> I'm sure at least a few of us are finding this rather amusing. The > TC> pre-release buzz here was all negative and apocalyptic. Now that it's > TC> out everyone's raving with positive reviews. Since this is nearly a > TC> mirror repeat of what happened with Re:Sonate, I'm not terribly > TC> surprised, and I think I predicted ahead of the release that this > would > TC> happen! > > TC> LOL > > TC> (PS: I won't have my copy for another couple of weeks...) > > TC> _______________________________________________ > TC> faxlist mailing list > TC> faxlist@2350.org > TC> http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > > > -- > Best regards, > Krackmonster mailto:kracker@krackmonster.com > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070108/f8cb606b/attachment.htm From sanvara at cox.net Mon Jan 8 19:06:33 2007 From: sanvara at cox.net (sanvara) Date: Mon Jan 8 19:07:05 2007 Subject: (fax) air V References: <480631.17495.qm@web39504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><200701082157.l08LvLnU013390@pog.tecnopolis.ca><85130228.20070108165312@krackmonster.com> <28125fa70701081502u19ee2050m8b40bcb4454620d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003601c73382$05c99310$020ba8c0@conroe> I think Gate Zero is great. Air V is really good and is growing on me each listen. However you look at it both are very worthy releases. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070108/81bc2e1f/attachment.htm From andrewdk at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 9 21:26:54 2007 From: andrewdk at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Keyser) Date: Tue Jan 9 21:27:08 2007 Subject: (fax) air V Message-ID: <20070110022654.97167.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ditto. Gate Zero - Black Dust was the one that "gripped" me the most on first listen. However, and yes, this completely overturns all the speculation -- IMHO, State of Mind on Air V is the best song on the CD, with End of Line and Obsessions close second and third. Two very good releases. However, I must say I'm looking forward to 2350 Broadway 4 -- after hearing one of the tracks on http://myspace.com/namlook ... (by the way, it is in fact possible to "rip" songs off myspace, even though they are low quality... given the proper Firefox extensions) Andrew ----- Original Message ---- From: sanvara To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 6:06:33 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: (fax) air V I think Gate Zero is great. Air V is really good and is growing on me each listen. However you look at it both are very worthy releases. _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070109/c5c37e0f/attachment.htm From dave at faxlabelusa.com Tue Jan 9 22:06:46 2007 From: dave at faxlabelusa.com (Dave at FAX USA) Date: Tue Jan 9 22:06:59 2007 Subject: (fax) air V In-Reply-To: <20070110022654.97167.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070110022654.97167.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <653C3F9F-70EE-4D42-BC1B-6A63F18CEB8C@faxlabelusa.com> > > (by the way, it is in fact possible to "rip" songs off myspace, > even though they are low quality... given the proper Firefox > extensions) > > Andrew > Any sounds that comes out of your soundcard can be recorded, regardless of the application that is generating it. On the Mac there is a program called Audio Hijack, and on the PC there are similar programs. I say this not to encourage piracy, but rather, to point out that if you post something on myspace or any other site, and think it can't be recorded, think again. But yes, the quality is low, and only pond scum would record tracks that way instead of paying the artist. (= Dave From andrewdk at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 9 22:27:20 2007 From: andrewdk at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Keyser) Date: Tue Jan 9 22:27:27 2007 Subject: (fax) air V Message-ID: <20070110032720.83362.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It's only to hold me over until I can get the real thing in the mail ;) I've used Audio Hijack before, and similar programs elsewhere. Useful to some extent, until you realize the fact that if what you're playing is compressed, and you record it, then compress it more... well, you get the idea. Not the smartest way to get a "good" copy of the audio. Andrew ----- Original Message ---- From: Dave at FAX USA To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 9:06:46 PM Subject: Re: (fax) air V > > (by the way, it is in fact possible to "rip" songs off myspace, > even though they are low quality... given the proper Firefox > extensions) > > Andrew > Any sounds that comes out of your soundcard can be recorded, regardless of the application that is generating it. On the Mac there is a program called Audio Hijack, and on the PC there are similar programs. I say this not to encourage piracy, but rather, to point out that if you post something on myspace or any other site, and think it can't be recorded, think again. But yes, the quality is low, and only pond scum would record tracks that way instead of paying the artist. (= Dave _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist From brian at lists.frickster.net Wed Jan 10 10:44:36 2007 From: brian at lists.frickster.net (brian@lists.frickster.net) Date: Wed Jan 10 10:44:59 2007 Subject: (fax) air V In-Reply-To: <20070110032720.83362.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070110032720.83362.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I might add, though, that Audio Hijack does not compress audio unless you tell it to. You can record pure audio (as good as the source) using that program. On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Andrew Keyser wrote: > It's only to hold me over until I can get the real thing in the mail ;) I've used Audio Hijack before, and similar programs elsewhere. Useful to some extent, until you realize the fact that if what you're playing is compressed, and you record it, then compress it more... well, you get the idea. Not the smartest way to get a "good" copy of the audio. Andrew -=brian=- From martin.t.jones at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 17:25:28 2007 From: martin.t.jones at gmail.com (Martin Jones) Date: Thu Jan 11 17:25:48 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? Message-ID: <13a7b53b0701111425t20790bc6u8c33637bdcd2d60d@mail.gmail.com> ?25 = $36 or so. Anyone else notice how Joerg had PW50 listed as ?15.40 till very recently on cue-records.de and now it's suddenly changed to ?25? Communication! :-/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070111/5895cff4/attachment.htm From audiomeme at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 17:41:02 2007 From: audiomeme at gmail.com (Tim Wright) Date: Thu Jan 11 17:41:08 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? In-Reply-To: <13a7b53b0701111425t20790bc6u8c33637bdcd2d60d@mail.gmail.com> References: <13a7b53b0701111425t20790bc6u8c33637bdcd2d60d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well that seems a bit out, but more importantly $23 = ?18 you fool ;-) Joerg must be another luddite and was hoping it wasn't going to be a DTS double. For me, if this is a good record (and 2350 3 must be in my top 20) it might be the one that makes me invest in some new kit. Cheers, Tim On 11/01/07, Martin Jones wrote: > > ?25 = $36 or so. > > Anyone else notice how Joerg had PW50 listed as ?15.40 till very recently > on cue-records.de and now it's suddenly changed to ?25? > > Communication! :-/ > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070111/c42682e5/attachment-0001.htm From martin.t.jones at gmail.com Thu Jan 11 17:54:22 2007 From: martin.t.jones at gmail.com (Martin Jones) Date: Thu Jan 11 17:54:26 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? In-Reply-To: References: <13a7b53b0701111425t20790bc6u8c33637bdcd2d60d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13a7b53b0701111454y3f47aff1x114cada0eb40a6a7@mail.gmail.com> Another luddite lol, just say what you think!! I can't pay in bucks, I ain't got no means to do it...and sorry, but I'd rather pay $13 more than get an evil credit card, satan in plastic form...(!) P.S. Anyone notice someone in the US seems to have found a load of sealed Fax in a 2nd hand shop somewhere, and is flogging it on eBay...? Either that or he resealed it like some evil people seem to do... On 1/11/07, Tim Wright wrote: > > Well that seems a bit out, but more importantly $23 = ?18 you fool ;-) > > Joerg must be another luddite and was hoping it wasn't going to be a DTS > double. > > For me, if this is a good record (and 2350 3 must be in my top 20) it > might be the one that makes me invest in some new kit. > > Cheers, > Tim > > On 11/01/07, Martin Jones wrote: > > > ?25 = $36 or so. > > > > Anyone else notice how Joerg had PW50 listed as ?15.40 till very > > recently on cue-records.de and now it's suddenly changed to ?25? > > > > Communication! :-/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > faxlist mailing list > > faxlist@2350.org > > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From ambient at nycap.rr.com Thu Jan 11 18:03:15 2007 From: ambient at nycap.rr.com (jackthetab) Date: Thu Jan 11 18:03:24 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? References: <13a7b53b0701111425t20790bc6u8c33637bdcd2d60d@mail.gmail.com> <13a7b53b0701111454y3f47aff1x114cada0eb40a6a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002601c735d4$ad98a730$6401a8c0@ambient> There are certain places I have been too that have had sealed Fax Records laying around. 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URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070111/9ffb75a9/attachment.htm From chrisdavidson2000 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 12 02:42:01 2007 From: chrisdavidson2000 at hotmail.com (chris davidson) Date: Fri Jan 12 02:43:39 2007 Subject: (fax) air V Message-ID: I've only listened once through, but I was disappointed with Gate Zero after really enjoying the last release, will need to get it playing again soon. Really enjoying Air 5, Obsessions for me is the strongest track, End of the line sounds to me as if it would be more at home on 4 Voice 4 :-) The track(s) I don't like is Jeux Dangereux & it's reprise, they remind me too much of some of the awful (IMHO) Air4 tracks, thankfully not as bad though! > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:26:54 -0800 (PST)> From: Andrew Keyser > Subject: Re: Re[2]: (fax) air V> To: sanvara , faxlist@2350.org> Message-ID: <20070110022654.97167.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Ditto. Gate Zero - Black Dust was the one that "gripped" me the most on first listen. However, and yes, this completely overturns all the speculation -- IMHO, State of Mind on Air V is the best song on the CD, with End of Line and Obsessions close second and third. Two very good releases. However, I must say I'm looking forward to 2350 Broadway 4 -- after hearing one of the tracks on http://myspace.com/namlook ... > > (by the way, it is in fact possible to "rip" songs off myspace, even though they are low quality... given the proper Firefox extensions)> > Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070112/86bff328/attachment.htm From martin.t.jones at gmail.com Fri Jan 12 08:34:03 2007 From: martin.t.jones at gmail.com (Martin Jones) Date: Fri Jan 12 08:34:23 2007 Subject: (fax) air V In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13a7b53b0701120534u74d8343bj43016dfed8654877@mail.gmail.com> I'd call PS110 a real grower, wait till the 5th listen before judging :-) On 1/12/07, chris davidson wrote: > > I've only listened once through, but I was disappointed with Gate Zero > after really enjoying the last release, will need to get it playing again > soon. Really enjoying Air 5, Obsessions for me is the strongest track, End > of the line sounds to me as if it would be more at home on 4 Voice 4 > :-) The track(s) I don't like is Jeux Dangereux & it's reprise, they remind > me too much of some of the awful (IMHO) Air4 tracks, thankfully not as bad > though! > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:26:54 -0800 (PST) > > From: Andrew Keyser > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: (fax) air V > > To: sanvara , faxlist@2350.org > > Message-ID: <20070110022654.97167.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Ditto. Gate Zero - Black Dust was the one that "gripped" me the most on > first listen. However, and yes, this completely overturns all the > speculation -- IMHO, State of Mind on Air V is the best song on the CD, with > End of Line and Obsessions close second and third. Two very good releases. > However, I must say I'm looking forward to 2350 Broadway 4 -- after hearing > one of the tracks on http://myspace.com/namlook ... > > > > (by the way, it is in fact possible to "rip" songs off myspace, even > though they are low quality... given the proper Firefox extensions) > > > > Andrew > > > ------------------------------ > Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CA. _________________________________________________________________ Kolla upp v?rens modef?rger http://salongk.msn.se/ From mercuryvapor at yahoo.com Fri Jan 12 14:01:58 2007 From: mercuryvapor at yahoo.com (John Whitney) Date: Fri Jan 12 14:02:06 2007 Subject: (fax) PW In-Reply-To: <13a7b53b0701120908t2c31b3datbc53ee4fdabcc442@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <852138.55705.qm@web38115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Martin Jones wrote: > Did Pete physically collaborate with Tetsu, or was > it a Paap-style postal > thingy? * * * PAGING PHONAUT *** ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited From cameron69 at comcast.net Fri Jan 12 14:27:56 2007 From: cameron69 at comcast.net (GREG HILL) Date: Fri Jan 12 14:28:34 2007 Subject: (fax) PW References: <852138.55705.qm@web38115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005c01c7367f$d5427f80$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Whitney" To: "Martin Jones" ; "Faxlist" Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: (fax) PW > --- Martin Jones wrote: > >> Did Pete physically collaborate with Tetsu, or was >> it a Paap-style postal >> thingy? > > * * * PAGING PHONAUT *** > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Music Unlimited > Access over 1 million songs. > http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist From ambient at yahoo.com Sat Jan 13 04:46:27 2007 From: ambient at yahoo.com (ambient) Date: Sat Jan 13 04:46:34 2007 Subject: (fax) Daisyworld : Tetsu Inoue and Atom Heart Message-ID: <20070113094627.52514.qmail@web34710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If any of you have been looking Tetsu Inoue or Atom Heart on Daisyworld, I have them up on ebay. And all of these Japanese Releases include the OBIs... you can see them in the pictures.... Also some rare ambient titles like; Fifty Years of Sunshine on Silent Records or Ambient 4 : Isolation & lots of Tetsu Inoue titles; http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=best.friends.in.tochigi everything with initial bids under $20 except 3. Muslimgauze : E.g Oblique Graph : Triptych OOP 1982 7" Pete Namlook - WINTER - SEA 01 1994 FAX CD Limited 500 Kit Clayton :Nek Sanalet, Lateral Forces MINT SEALED Makyo : Yahini CD Dakini Records Datacide : Flowerhead Tetsu Inoue Atom Heart Tetsu Inoue : Object and Organic Code SEALED Tetsu Inoue : Taylor Deupree : Chronologi 12k OOP Tetsu Inoue :Andrew Deutsch : Field Tracker 12 cd set ambient new age Berne Friedman eno Silent Muslimgauze : Al Aqsa Intifada OOP Perfect Limited 500 Sun Electric : Present (Apollo AMB 6943 CD) R&S Sun Electric : Kitchen (R&S 933 CD) 1993 ambient Vladislav Delay : Entain Sistol Uusitalo vapaa muurari Illusion Of Safety / Hands To / Beequeen : Guru Means Atom Heart : Dos Tracks RI 051 Atom Heart :Silver Sound RI 031 Atom Heart Tetsu Inoue : HAT RI 037 Atom Heart Tetsu Inoue : Ondas RI 040 Atom Heart Dandy Jack : Plastic RI 042 Dandy Jack : Cosmic Trousers RI 034 Atom Heart Carbon : Standards RI 061 ~Scape Kit Clayton Pole Monolake Vladislav Delay 2 CDs Ambient 4 : Isolationism Fifty Years Of Sunshine : Silent Records SR9333 2XCD KLF : SPACE CD Daisyworld : Daisy World Tour Tetsu Inoue Jonah Sharp Daisyworld : HAT Tetsu Inoue Atom Heart w/OBI Daisyworld : Sketch Show : Tronika w/OBI Daisyworld : Terre Thaemlitz - Couture Cosmetique w/OBI =scout Cyborg(v0.721) @ http://www.artism.jp/ae_an26.html -end transmission- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From dakota.boo at btconnect.com Sat Jan 13 07:22:02 2007 From: dakota.boo at btconnect.com (dakota.boo) Date: Sat Jan 13 07:22:15 2007 Subject: (fax) FA: Planetarium 2 (PW42) and DSOTM VI (PK08/133) Message-ID: <000901c7370d$6f1c0bc0$0200a8c0@yourd65bbc6695> Ending tomorrow . PETE NAMLOOK - Planetarium 2 (FAX, PW42) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &category=1577&item=160071572743 PETE NAMLOOK - Dark Side of the Moog VI (FAX PK08/133) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &category=9991&item=160071572774 Thanks. http://boo.hiway.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <852138.55705.qm@web38115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070113123707.49307.qmail@web86707.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hi everyone i see some of the new fax cds are 2 - 1 is DTS 5.1 ? my question is , is this like a stereo recording converted to 5.1 or is it fully produced 5.1 music with panning between all 4/5 speakers ? i dont have 5.1 system but might be tempted if the music is made in 5.1 ?anyone tried or tested the 5.1 quality yet and do any of the 5.1 fax releases have panning tricks where it goes all round the room.Some 5.1 music isnt . . . its stereo masters converted to 5.1 , not recorded in studio and sounds placed using 5.1 monitoring.Interested to know whether namlooks recording and monitoring in 5.1 , if he is then thats a BIG step forward.Though how do you then make a stereo version from a mixed amd monitored 5.1 mix >? i maybe in wrong place to ask this :) and shoudl go studio forum maybe ! but do wonder as i made music and looked into 5.1 , i wonder if people compared the 5.1 versions and the stereo cd versions ? and noted difference.Leap forward or sales gimmick.I once setup eno style surround system ( bi wire secopnd set of speakers behind you to positives on your amp if it has twin sets of speaker outs on it and hey prestos , you have surround system with very nice and unusual 3d quality. Ps i read somewhere 5% of people have 5.1 system in home ? Ppsp wouldnt it be nice if fax rereleased all their catalogue as 5.1 and even stuff like world reciever !!!!! anyone have any answers ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070113/8cb39626/attachment.htm From theendoftime at btinternet.com Sat Jan 13 07:36:14 2007 From: theendoftime at btinternet.com (mu) Date: Sat Jan 13 07:43:40 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? In-Reply-To: <852138.55705.qm@web38115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <918268.47829.qm@web86707.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hi everyone i see some of the new fax cds are 2 - 1 is DTS 5.1 ? my question is , is this like a stereo recording converted to 5.1 or is it fully produced 5.1 music with panning between all 4/5 speakers ? i dont have 5.1 system but might be tempted if the music is made in 5.1 ?anyone tried or tested the 5.1 quality yet and do any of the 5.1 fax releases have panning tricks where it goes all round the room.Some 5.1 music isnt . . . its stereo masters converted to 5.1 , not recorded in studio and sounds placed using 5.1 monitoring.Interested to know whether namlooks recording and monitoring in 5.1 , if he is then thats a BIG step forward.Though how do you then make a stereo version from a mixed amd monitored 5.1 mix >? i maybe in wrong place to ask this :) and shoudl go studio forum maybe ! but do wonder as i made music and looked into 5.1 , i wonder if people compared the 5.1 versions and the stereo cd versions ? and noted difference.Leap forward or sales gimmick.I once setup eno style surround system ( bi wire secopnd set of speakers behind you to positives on your amp if it has twin sets of speaker outs on it and hey prestos , you have surround system with very nice and unusual 3d quality. Ps i read somewhere 5% of people have 5.1 system in home ? Ppsp wouldnt it be nice if fax rereleased all their catalogue as 5.1 and even stuff like world reciever !!!!! anyone have any answers ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070113/041f79d8/attachment.htm From theendoftime at btinternet.com Sat Jan 13 07:51:29 2007 From: theendoftime at btinternet.com (mu) Date: Sat Jan 13 07:51:33 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? In-Reply-To: <13a7b53b0701111425t20790bc6u8c33637bdcd2d60d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <660350.19209.qm@web86710.mail.ird.yahoo.com> i think 5.1 would have been better on seperate cd .25 euro for a cd is what non 5.1 people will have to pay , there are like many many non 5.1 users (i read 5 % of world music listeners use 5.1 or something small ? i am in the 5% :) .A seperate 5.1 fax release would better for both the $$$ of the buyer and the sensibility factor.About 1% of people have the troom for 5.1 system ! and then would be a crappy cheap system with sub bass system you can hear in uranus over all over frequencies.I never heard a decent 5.1 system outside cinema apart from at arich kids pad where he had 20 foot lounge area and bang and olfeson surround , and his system converted stereo cds to surround .Sounded good but who has this kind of technology ? and space to appreciate surround and with a room with seat in middle ? namlook i guess ! surround is i am afraid for people in large houses , it Does not work in most peoples homes or avaerage lounge area , you get horrendous reflections of sound and its becomes a merged mess of sound .Headphones are Way better or better still binuaral encoded music for headphones.(if you look for swim in sound experience) I have a 5.1 thing today ! It irritates me as i would love it but my flat is to small and i dont have room to setup my sofa in the middle of the room !:) quadraphonic all over again , its not the technology thats the problem and reason its not caught on , its the fact average people dont have the space or money for this system.Anyone can buy $1000 5.1 system for room , but ? you get sad sound , not a good audio system , you buying to get a sound around you , of all my freinds and people i associate with not 1 has 5.1 , who does ? how many here have 5.1 ?or tried fax in 5.1 ? Martin Jones wrote: ?25 = $36 or so. Anyone else notice how Joerg had PW50 listed as ?15.40 till very recently on cue-records.de and now it's suddenly changed to ?25? Communication! :-/ _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070113/dad54153/attachment.htm From phonaut at yahoo.com Sat Jan 13 08:28:38 2007 From: phonaut at yahoo.com (phonaut) Date: Sat Jan 13 08:28:42 2007 Subject: (fax) 2350v4 In-Reply-To: <852138.55705.qm@web38115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <712163.1958.qm@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> > > Did Pete physically collaborate with Tetsu, or was > > it a Paap-style postal > > thingy? > * * * PAGING PHONAUT *** oh right, I'm on call today! ;-) Namlook won't come to the USA, at least not until Bush is out of office. So, 2350 Broadway 4 was a postal collab. Peter has had Tetsu's material since this time last year, AFAIK. The final product (only heard the stereo mix so far) is pretty stellar IMO, and could be an instant classic. Looking forward to diving into the 5.1 version, as it will be my first Fax-in-surround experience... > > my question is , is this like a stereo recording converted to 5.1 or is it fully produced 5.1 music with panning between all 4/5 speakers ? I asked Namlook about this a couple weeks ago. He is now working and composing in 5.1, that is his new standard. It's the configuration he prefers and feels it most appropriate for his music. Stereo mixes are adapted from the 'reference' 5.1 version. Here's a new prescription, take two of these and call me in the morning if you aren't feeling any better: http://www.ear-rational.com/detail.php?id=31186 http://phonaut.com/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From kracker at krackmonster.com Sat Jan 13 10:52:05 2007 From: kracker at krackmonster.com (Krackmonster) Date: Sat Jan 13 10:52:09 2007 Subject: (fax) 2350v4 In-Reply-To: <712163.1958.qm@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <852138.55705.qm@web38115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <712163.1958.qm@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <622212067.20070113095205@krackmonster.com> p> Namlook won't come to the USA, at least not until Bush p> is out of office. Heh you're kidding right *just curious* I found it kinda weird the postal thing since the series is named after their collabortation together at Tetsu's place, yes? Kracker From thesorus at gmail.com Sat Jan 13 12:11:36 2007 From: thesorus at gmail.com (Max Lincourt) Date: Sat Jan 13 12:11:50 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? In-Reply-To: <660350.19209.qm@web86710.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <13a7b53b0701111425t20790bc6u8c33637bdcd2d60d@mail.gmail.com> <660350.19209.qm@web86710.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <78e0cb140701130911i3308f593w4f807c587106646e@mail.gmail.com> > how many here have 5.1 ?or tried fax in 5.1 ? > I remembered the same debate when CD started to get more and more popular; people did not want to change format, did not want to buy new hardware and were mostly content with vinyls, and having to switch sides after 20 minutes or so. Get over it, 5.1 will be the audio "format" of the future. From theREALmxyzptlk at comcast.net Sat Jan 13 12:59:16 2007 From: theREALmxyzptlk at comcast.net (theREALmxyzptlk) Date: Sat Jan 13 13:00:04 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? In-Reply-To: <78e0cb140701130911i3308f593w4f807c587106646e@mail.gmail.com> References: <13a7b53b0701111425t20790bc6u8c33637bdcd2d60d@mail.gmail.com> <660350.19209.qm@web86710.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <78e0cb140701130911i3308f593w4f807c587106646e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45A91DF4.5040907@comcast.net> Hmmm... how much of a running start did it take to pole-vault to that conclusion? jeff > > Get over it, 5.1 will be the audio "format" of the future. From andrewdk at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 13 13:37:00 2007 From: andrewdk at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Keyser) Date: Sat Jan 13 13:37:08 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? Message-ID: <20070113183700.68624.qmail@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Can't wait to see headphones with 5 speakers and a sub dangling from them in all directions. Yeah, I don't think stereo is going away any time soon. The only thing that will maybe happen (with a lot of luck, that is, if you want this to happen) is that 5.1 will become the main in-home / in-car format and stereo will be everything else. Even then it's quite a stretch. Andrew ----- Original Message ---- From: Max Lincourt To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:11:36 AM Subject: Re: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? > how many here have 5.1 ?or tried fax in 5.1 ? > I remembered the same debate when CD started to get more and more popular; people did not want to change format, did not want to buy new hardware and were mostly content with vinyls, and having to switch sides after 20 minutes or so. Get over it, 5.1 will be the audio "format" of the future. _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist From lx at neurowerx.de Sat Jan 13 13:43:08 2007 From: lx at neurowerx.de (Alexander S. Kunz) Date: Sat Jan 13 13:43:24 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? In-Reply-To: <20070113183700.68624.qmail@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070113183700.68624.qmail@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1297044112.20070113194308@neurowerx.de> Hello Andrew Keyser & everyone else 13-Jan-2007 19:37, you wrote: > Can't wait to see headphones with 5 speakers and a sub dangling from > them in all directions. LOL good one! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) What we need is progress with an escape hatch. -- John Updike From theREALmxyzptlk at comcast.net Sat Jan 13 13:45:30 2007 From: theREALmxyzptlk at comcast.net (theREALmxyzptlk) Date: Sat Jan 13 13:45:52 2007 Subject: (fax) Yeah it's a recurring theme, but whatcha gonna do? In-Reply-To: <1297044112.20070113194308@neurowerx.de> References: <20070113183700.68624.qmail@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1297044112.20070113194308@neurowerx.de> Message-ID: <45A928CA.7090802@comcast.net> Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > Hello Andrew Keyser & everyone else > > 13-Jan-2007 19:37, you wrote: > > >>Can't wait to see headphones with 5 speakers and a sub dangling from >>them in all directions. > > > LOL good one! > Especially while pole-vaulting. j From andrewdk at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 13 13:47:11 2007 From: andrewdk at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Keyser) Date: Sat Jan 13 13:47:14 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? Message-ID: <20070113184711.85601.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes, these are fully produced 5.1. I honestly don't see how you could expect Namlook to approve of anything less. I kind of doubt it's a sales gimmick. If you do the math, 1000 copies, $15 each (or 15 euros, for our Martin) is less than 500 at $25/25 eur (he's cut the limitation in half from 1000 to 500, it seems, for most of these DTS releases -- and even the latest non-DTS ones, ie Gate Zero - Black Dust). I would seriously like to see a good portion of the historic fax catalog rereleased in 5.1. But then, it most likely WILL be "fake" 5.1, since it was probably not mixed and monitored in 5.1. Andrew ----- Original Message ---- From: mu To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:36:14 AM Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? Hi everyone i see some of the new fax cds are 2 - 1 is DTS 5.1 ? my question is , is this like a stereo recording converted to 5.1 or is it fully produced 5.1 music with panning between all 4/5 speakers ? i dont have 5.1 system but might be tempted if the music is made in 5.1 ?anyone tried or tested the 5.1 quality yet and do any of the 5.1 fax releases have panning tricks where it goes all round the room.Some 5.1 music isnt . . . its stereo masters converted to 5.1 , not recorded in studio and sounds placed using 5.1 monitoring.Interested to know whether namlooks recording and monitoring in 5.1 , if he is then thats a BIG step forward.Though how do you then make a stereo version from a mixed amd monitored 5.1 mix >? i maybe in wrong place to ask this :) and shoudl go studio forum maybe ! but do wonder as i made music and looked into 5.1 , i wonder if people compared the 5.1 versions and the stereo cd versions ? and noted difference.Leap forward or sales gimmick.I once setup eno style surround system ( bi wire secopnd set of speakers behind you to positives on your amp if it has twin sets of speaker outs on it and hey prestos , you have surround system with very nice and unusual 3d quality. Ps i read somewhere 5% of people have 5.1 system in home ? Ppsp wouldnt it be nice if fax rereleased all their catalogue as 5.1 and even stuff like world reciever !!!!! anyone have any answers ? From riouxs at aol.com Sat Jan 13 13:50:04 2007 From: riouxs at aol.com (riouxs@aol.com) Date: Sat Jan 13 13:50:16 2007 Subject: (fax) Rudy Adrian Message-ID: <8C9055AC5B61CBD-14B0-52EE@mblk-d51.sysops.aol.com> There was a mention of Rudy Adrian a few weeks back and I saw this in the new groove newsletter today : ________________ RUDY ADRIAN The new cd of Rudy is called "Par Avion". We will release it in April. "Par Avion - Sequencer Sketches vol.4" contains 48 minutes of sequencer music plus on the same disc a "bonus album" of "Starfields II" which are about 32 minutes of electronic atmospheres (darker and more electronic sounding than his usual "atmospheric music"). One of the sequencer tracks is a remix of a track that came out with E-dition magazine and is a collaboration with Alpha Wave Movement. Soundclips are available on our website. _______ more details I'm assuming are at www.groove.nl Rudy's recordings were mentioned to be 'better than Tetsu's stuff' or something like that. I don't recall exactly, but you get the idea. I think Scout said it. While I personally disagree with the claim of superior audio enjoyment over Inoue - Adrian's material is spacey ambient, (tracks titled "space border patrol", "starfields", etc) very close to Namlook's signature sound, minus the jazz guitar and kraut-vox, and would've been quite at home on FAX circa 1996. All extremities resting on a synth, sequencers fully lit - set the controls for the heart of the sun dammit. Jason infractionrecords.com onnow : stars of the lid - new track, something or other in C major pt. III ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070113/43487c5e/attachment.htm From ambient at yahoo.com Sat Jan 13 18:47:23 2007 From: ambient at yahoo.com (ambient) Date: Sat Jan 13 18:47:52 2007 Subject: (fax) 5.1 Headphones already exist. In-Reply-To: <1297044112.20070113194308@neurowerx.de> Message-ID: <225197.65571.qm@web34711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Alexander S. Kunz" wrote: > Hello Andrew Keyser & everyone else > > 13-Jan-2007 19:37, you wrote: > > > Can't wait to see headphones with 5 speakers > and a sub dangling from > > them in all directions. > > LOL good one! > > Alexander The joke is on the two of you ..Just because you have only two ears you still have lots of space around your head. 5.1 Headphones already exist. Headphones that is, not earbuds. I have seen a pair that looks like a hat. Go ahead and do a quick internet search for 5.1 headphones and you will find many with wires dangling. =scout Cyborg(v0.721) @ http://www.artism.jp/ae_an26.html -end transmission- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From trevor at tecnopolis.ca Sat Jan 13 23:48:09 2007 From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes) Date: Sat Jan 13 23:48:23 2007 Subject: (fax) 5.1 Headphones already exist. In-Reply-To: <225197.65571.qm@web34711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200701140448.l0E4m9UR025440@pog.tecnopolis.ca> On 13 Jan, ambient wrote: > around your head. 5.1 Headphones already exist. http://www.zalman.co.kr/usa/product/view.asp?idx=134 I sell them (brand new) for $59 CA$ + freight. That's about $52 US$. I haven't had a chance to try them yet... From andrewdk at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 14 00:46:00 2007 From: andrewdk at sbcglobal.net (Andrew Keyser) Date: Sun Jan 14 00:46:07 2007 Subject: (fax) 5.1 Headphones already exist. Message-ID: <20070114054600.78292.qmail@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm afraid the joke is on whoever wears these =P Now, to lug around a DTS capable receiver everywhere... Andrew ----- Original Message ---- From: Trevor Cordes To: Fax List Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:48:09 PM Subject: Re: (fax) 5.1 Headphones already exist. On 13 Jan, ambient wrote: > around your head. 5.1 Headphones already exist. http://www.zalman.co.kr/usa/product/view.asp?idx=134 I sell them (brand new) for $59 CA$ + freight. That's about $52 US$. I haven't had a chance to try them yet... _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist From cameron69 at comcast.net Sun Jan 14 01:14:59 2007 From: cameron69 at comcast.net (GREG HILL) Date: Sun Jan 14 01:15:20 2007 Subject: (fax) 2350v4 References: <712163.1958.qm@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001101c737a3$5b338b10$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> are you serious about Namlook not coming to the USA till Bush is gone? haha!! I love it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "phonaut" To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:28 AM Subject: (fax) 2350v4 > >> > Did Pete physically collaborate with Tetsu, or was >> > it a Paap-style postal >> > thingy? >> * * * PAGING PHONAUT *** > > oh right, I'm on call today! ;-) > Namlook won't come to the USA, at least not until Bush > is out of office. > So, 2350 Broadway 4 was a postal collab. Peter has > had Tetsu's material since this time last year, AFAIK. > The final product (only heard the stereo mix so far) > is pretty stellar IMO, and could be an instant > classic. Looking forward to diving into the 5.1 > version, as it will be my first Fax-in-surround > experience... > >> > my question is , is this like a stereo recording > converted to 5.1 or is it fully produced 5.1 music > with panning between all 4/5 speakers ? > > I asked Namlook about this a couple weeks ago. He is > now working and composing in 5.1, that is his new > standard. It's the configuration he prefers and feels > it most appropriate for his music. Stereo mixes are > adapted from the 'reference' 5.1 version. > > Here's a new prescription, take two of these and call > me in the morning if you aren't feeling any better: > http://www.ear-rational.com/detail.php?id=31186 > > http://phonaut.com/ > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist From lx at neurowerx.de Sun Jan 14 04:26:39 2007 From: lx at neurowerx.de (Alexander S. Kunz) Date: Sun Jan 14 04:28:00 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: 5.1 Headphones already exist. In-Reply-To: <225197.65571.qm@web34711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1297044112.20070113194308@neurowerx.de> <225197.65571.qm@web34711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1024930707.20070114102639@neurowerx.de> Hello Ambient & everyone else 14-Jan-2007 00:47, you wrote: >>> Can't wait to see headphones with 5 speakers and a sub dangling from >>> them in all directions. >> LOL good one! > The joke is on the two of you ..Just because you have only two ears > you still have lots of space around your head. 5.1 Headphones already > exist. Uhhhh, really. If your imagination permits, try to think of the image that popped up in my head after the above description. Thats what I was laughing about. > Headphones that is, not earbuds. I have seen a pair that looks like a > hat. Go ahead and do a quick internet search for 5.1 headphones and > you will find many with wires dangling. I *know* that. Am I allowed to laugh about a joke nevertheless? Its difficult enough to not start laughing when you're all taking your holy grail of music ambient namlook 5.1 so serious... ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) NP: "Air Song (8 AM Version)" by Solar Fields from the 2005 release "Extended" http://www.discogs.com/release/532106 From kracker at krackmonster.com Sun Jan 14 09:18:36 2007 From: kracker at krackmonster.com (Krackmonster) Date: Sun Jan 14 09:18:55 2007 Subject: (fax) 2350v4 In-Reply-To: <001101c737a3$5b338b10$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> References: <712163.1958.qm@web53006.mail.yahoo.com> <001101c737a3$5b338b10$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> Message-ID: <1928697630.20070114081836@krackmonster.com> Yeah that what I asked! Kracker Sunday, January 14, 2007, 12:14:59 AM, you wrote: GH> are you serious about Namlook not coming to the USA till Bush is gone? GH> haha!! I love it. GH> ----- Original Message ----- GH> From: "phonaut" GH> To: GH> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:28 AM GH> Subject: (fax) 2350v4 >> >>> > Did Pete physically collaborate with Tetsu, or was >>> > it a Paap-style postal >>> > thingy? >>> * * * PAGING PHONAUT *** >> >> oh right, I'm on call today! ;-) >> Namlook won't come to the USA, at least not until Bush >> is out of office. >> So, 2350 Broadway 4 was a postal collab. Peter has >> had Tetsu's material since this time last year, AFAIK. >> The final product (only heard the stereo mix so far) >> is pretty stellar IMO, and could be an instant >> classic. Looking forward to diving into the 5.1 >> version, as it will be my first Fax-in-surround >> experience... >> >>> > my question is , is this like a stereo recording >> converted to 5.1 or is it fully produced 5.1 music >> with panning between all 4/5 speakers ? >> >> I asked Namlook about this a couple weeks ago. He is >> now working and composing in 5.1, that is his new >> standard. It's the configuration he prefers and feels >> it most appropriate for his music. Stereo mixes are >> adapted from the 'reference' 5.1 version. >> >> Here's a new prescription, take two of these and call >> me in the morning if you aren't feeling any better: >> http://www.ear-rational.com/detail.php?id=31186 >> >> http://phonaut.com/ >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. >> http://new.mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> Need Mail bonding? >> Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. >> http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 >> _______________________________________________ >> faxlist mailing list >> faxlist@2350.org >> http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist GH> _______________________________________________ GH> faxlist mailing list GH> faxlist@2350.org GH> http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -- Best regards, Krackmonster mailto:kracker@krackmonster.com From horizonmusic at juno.com Sun Jan 14 17:23:56 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Sun Jan 14 17:30:07 2007 Subject: (fax) second hand Fax Message-ID: <20070114.172819.2976.20.horizonmusic@juno.com> My guess would be that he cleared out the stock at a Towers Records that was closing. You can only imagine what was buried back in the storeroom of each location. Chris L. "Martin Jones" wrote: >>P.S. Anyone notice someone in the US seems to have found a load of sealed Fax in a 2nd hand shop somewhere, and is flogging it on eBay...? Either that or he resealed it like some evil people seem to do... << From horizonmusic at juno.com Sun Jan 14 17:16:24 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Sun Jan 14 17:30:08 2007 Subject: (fax) HoS Message-ID: <20070114.172819.2976.19.horizonmusic@juno.com> Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >>An album you most likely don't want to have if you haven't been there -OR- are an addicted Fax completist. Melodic early Frankfurt technotrance that built its own clichi, or something like that. ;-) << So was it a pre Fax label release? Sounds like it could be interesting- are there samples up somewhere I could give a listen? Chris L From horizonmusic at juno.com Sun Jan 14 17:26:19 2007 From: horizonmusic at juno.com (Chris Lawless) Date: Sun Jan 14 17:30:09 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip Message-ID: <20070114.172819.2976.21.horizonmusic@juno.com> Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >>SCNR ...hey, its friday! ;-) << SCNR?? ...sigh... "Martin Jones" wrote: >>Did Pete physically collaborate with Tetsu, or was it a Paap-style postal thingy? << Paap?? As in "Joachim"? Chris L. From brian at hyperreal.org Sun Jan 14 18:27:15 2007 From: brian at hyperreal.org (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Sun Jan 14 18:25:08 2007 Subject: (fax) second hand Fax In-Reply-To: <20070114.172819.2976.20.horizonmusic@juno.com> References: <20070114.172819.2976.20.horizonmusic@juno.com> Message-ID: <20070114152408.H2024@paz.hyperreal.org> I hit 5 different Towers in the Bay Area as it was closing, and even at the beginning of the closing sale there was no back-room overstock; it was all on the floor. For about 3 of them I went back 3 or 4 times as the prices dropped, scouring each time, until the last day when everything was 90% off. Never saw a single FAX release. Come to think of it, I'd never seen any FAX at Tower ever. I did get a lot of Laswell-related works, stuff on Morr Music, older jazz, weird movies.... Brian On Sun, 14 Jan 2007, Chris Lawless wrote: > My guess would be that he cleared out the stock at a Towers Records that > was closing. You can only imagine what was buried back in the storeroom > of each location. > > Chris L. > > > "Martin Jones" wrote: > >>> P.S. Anyone notice someone in the US seems to have found a load of > sealed > Fax in a 2nd hand shop somewhere, and is flogging it on eBay...? Either > that > or he resealed it like some evil people seem to do... << > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > From thesorus at gmail.com Mon Jan 15 12:35:53 2007 From: thesorus at gmail.com (Max Lincourt) Date: Mon Jan 15 12:36:16 2007 Subject: (fax) HoS In-Reply-To: <20070114.172819.2976.19.horizonmusic@juno.com> References: <20070114.172819.2976.19.horizonmusic@juno.com> Message-ID: <78e0cb140701150935l4752b6eat73596803efee981f@mail.gmail.com> It was not a pre-fax release, but an EARLY trance/ambient release. > So was it a pre Fax label release? Sounds like it could be interesting- > are there samples up somewhere I could give a listen? > I think you can have a listen on the iTunes store. From thesorus at gmail.com Mon Jan 15 12:37:08 2007 From: thesorus at gmail.com (Max Lincourt) Date: Mon Jan 15 12:37:27 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip In-Reply-To: <20070114.172819.2976.21.horizonmusic@juno.com> References: <20070114.172819.2976.21.horizonmusic@juno.com> Message-ID: <78e0cb140701150937q11822643ld0071f1735619cdc@mail.gmail.com> Paap as in Speedy J. > Paap?? As in "Joachim"? > From theREALmxyzptlk at comcast.net Mon Jan 15 12:44:49 2007 From: theREALmxyzptlk at comcast.net (theREALmxyzptlk) Date: Mon Jan 15 12:45:24 2007 Subject: (fax) musicmatch continuous rip In-Reply-To: <78e0cb140701150937q11822643ld0071f1735619cdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070114.172819.2976.21.horizonmusic@juno.com> <78e0cb140701150937q11822643ld0071f1735619cdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45ABBD91.1020808@comcast.net> > Paap as in Speedy J. > > >> Paap?? As in "Joachim"? >> > Last I looked, Joachem Paap *is* Speedy J. j From martin.t.jones at gmail.com Mon Jan 15 16:20:26 2007 From: martin.t.jones at gmail.com (Martin Jones) Date: Mon Jan 15 16:20:46 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? In-Reply-To: <20070113184711.85601.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070113184711.85601.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13a7b53b0701151320n7480729le360dc30e2678a2f@mail.gmail.com> Seems another strange PK decision to be honest...trying to offset the money he makes, or not confident that 1000 people will pay ?25 (or bucks!) for a new CD? Hmmmm... On 1/13/07, Andrew Keyser wrote: > > Yes, these are fully produced 5.1. I honestly don't see how you could > expect Namlook to approve of anything less. I kind of doubt it's a sales > gimmick. If you do the math, 1000 copies, $15 each (or 15 euros, for our > Martin) is less than 500 at $25/25 eur (he's cut the limitation in half from > 1000 to 500, it seems, for most of these DTS releases -- and even the latest > non-DTS ones, ie Gate Zero - Black Dust). > > > > I would seriously like to see a good portion of the historic fax catalog > rereleased in 5.1. But then, it most likely WILL be "fake" 5.1, since it > was probably not mixed and monitored in 5.1. > > > > Andrew > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: mu > > To: faxlist@2350.org > > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:36:14 AM > > Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? > > > > Hi everyone > > > > i see some of the new fax cds are 2 - 1 is DTS 5.1 ? my > question is , is this like a stereo recording converted to 5.1 or is it > fully produced 5.1 music with panning between all 4/5 speakers ? i dont > have 5.1 system but might be tempted if the music is made in 5.1 ?anyone > tried or tested the 5.1 quality yet and do any of the 5.1 fax releases > have panning tricks where it goes all round the room.Some 5.1 music isnt . > . . its stereo masters converted to 5.1 , not recorded in studio and > sounds placed using 5.1 monitoring.Interested to know whether namlooks > recording and monitoring in 5.1 , if he is then thats a BIG step > forward.Though how do you then make a stereo version from a mixed amd > monitored 5.1 mix >? i maybe in wrong place to ask this :) and shoudl go > studio forum maybe ! but do wonder as i made music and looked into 5.1 , > i wonder if people compared the 5.1 versions and the stereo cd versions ? > and noted difference.Leap forward or sales gimmick.I once setup eno style > surround system ( bi wire secopnd set of speakers behind you to positives on > your amp if it has twin sets of speaker outs on it and hey prestos , you > have surround system with very nice and unusual 3d quality. > > > > Ps i read somewhere 5% of people have 5.1 system in home ? > > > > Ppsp wouldnt it be nice if fax rereleased all their catalogue as 5.1 and > even stuff like world reciever !!!!! > > > > anyone have any answers ? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070115/da8f33f6/attachment.htm From cameron69 at comcast.net Mon Jan 15 16:31:36 2007 From: cameron69 at comcast.net (GREG HILL) Date: Mon Jan 15 16:32:02 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? References: <20070113184711.85601.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <13a7b53b0701151320n7480729le360dc30e2678a2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002201c738ec$92663e80$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> how often does Namlook sell 1000 cds anyway(let alone ones that cost $25)? I bet its rare. Especially since almost everyone who purchases music nowadays does it via the internet and mp3 sites. ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Jones To: Andrew Keyser Cc: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? Seems another strange PK decision to be honest...trying to offset the money he makes, or not confident that 1000 people will pay ?25 (or bucks!) for a new CD? Hmmmm... On 1/13/07, Andrew Keyser wrote: Yes, these are fully produced 5.1. I honestly don't see how you could expect Namlook to approve of anything less. I kind of doubt it's a sales gimmick. If you do the math, 1000 copies, $15 each (or 15 euros, for our Martin) is less than 500 at $25/25 eur (he's cut the limitation in half from 1000 to 500, it seems, for most of these DTS releases -- and even the latest non-DTS ones, ie Gate Zero - Black Dust). I would seriously like to see a good portion of the historic fax catalog rereleased in 5.1. But then, it most likely WILL be "fake" 5.1, since it was probably not mixed and monitored in 5.1. Andrew ----- Original Message ---- From: mu To: faxlist@2350.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:36:14 AM Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? Hi everyone i see some of the new fax cds are 2 - 1 is DTS 5.1 ? my question is , is this like a stereo recording converted to 5.1 or is it fully produced 5.1 music with panning between all 4/5 speakers ? i dont have 5.1 system but might be tempted if the music is made in 5.1 ?anyone tried or tested the 5.1 quality yet and do any of the 5.1 fax releases have panning tricks where it goes all round the room.Some 5.1 music isnt . . . its stereo masters converted to 5.1 , not recorded in studio and sounds placed using 5.1 monitoring.Interested to know whether namlooks recording and monitoring in 5.1 , if he is then thats a BIG step forward.Though how do you then make a stereo version from a mixed amd monitored 5.1 mix >? i maybe in wrong place to ask this :) and shoudl go studio forum maybe ! but do wonder as i made music and looked into 5.1 , i wonder if people compared the 5.1 versions and the stereo cd versions ? and noted difference.Leap forward or sales gimmick.I once setup eno style surround system ( bi wire secopnd set of speakers behind you to positives on your amp if it has twin sets of speaker outs on it and hey prestos , you have surround system with very nice and unusual 3d quality. Ps i read somewhere 5% of people have 5.1 system in home ? Ppsp wouldnt it be nice if fax rereleased all their catalogue as 5.1 and even stuff like world reciever !!!!! anyone have any answers ? _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ faxlist mailing list faxlist@2350.org http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://monkeymail.org/archives/faxlist/attachments/20070115/c25c5c18/attachment.htm From trevor at tecnopolis.ca Mon Jan 15 17:13:07 2007 From: trevor at tecnopolis.ca (Trevor Cordes) Date: Mon Jan 15 17:13:37 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? In-Reply-To: <002201c738ec$92663e80$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> Message-ID: <200701152213.l0FMD7OI015745@pog.tecnopolis.ca> On 15 Jan, GREG HILL wrote: > how often does Namlook sell 1000 cds anyway(let alone ones that cost > $25)? I bet its rare. Remember, he doesn't have to sell them to end users, just to disties and record shops! If they sit on 100's of store's shelves then as far as he's concerned he's sold 1000. Of course, I have no problem believing that it doesn't take too long for FAX to sell most of the copies into the hands of actual end users. Sure, some titles may take forever to sell, but those must be the minority. Remember, he did 2000 and 3000 limitations for a while! > Especially since almost everyone who purchases > music nowadays does it via the internet and mp3 sites. I'm not sure that statement is true! I don't know anyone who buys music exclusively digitally, and I barely know anyone who buys any music digitally! From cameron69 at comcast.net Mon Jan 15 17:45:53 2007 From: cameron69 at comcast.net (GREG HILL) Date: Mon Jan 15 17:46:17 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? References: <200701152213.l0FMD7OI015745@pog.tecnopolis.ca> Message-ID: <007401c738f6$f2b30fc0$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> Trevor, you don't know anyone who purchases music digitally? with Ipods so popular(go to your nearest gym), most people are getting their mp3s from the Apple store, or some other mp3 site on the web. With record stores closing left and right, most people who enjoy listening to music, do not buy cds, as much as they do mp3s. Would other people agree with me on this point? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Cordes" To: "Fax List" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? > On 15 Jan, GREG HILL wrote: >> how often does Namlook sell 1000 cds anyway(let alone ones that cost >> $25)? I bet its rare. > > Remember, he doesn't have to sell them to end users, just to disties and > record shops! If they sit on 100's of store's shelves then as far as > he's concerned he's sold 1000. Of course, I have no problem believing > that it doesn't take too long for FAX to sell most of the copies into > the hands of actual end users. Sure, some titles may take forever to > sell, but those must be the minority. > > Remember, he did 2000 and 3000 limitations for a while! > >> Especially since almost everyone who purchases >> music nowadays does it via the internet and mp3 sites. > > I'm not sure that statement is true! I don't know anyone who buys music > exclusively digitally, and I barely know anyone who buys any music > digitally! > > _______________________________________________ > faxlist mailing list > faxlist@2350.org > http://2350.org/mailman/listinfo/faxlist From speakermark at hotmail.co.uk Mon Jan 15 18:09:45 2007 From: speakermark at hotmail.co.uk (mark dawes) Date: Mon Jan 15 18:10:00 2007 Subject: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? In-Reply-To: <007401c738f6$f2b30fc0$6401a8c0@greg68b4399502> Message-ID: heck this is the first thing i have seen that has made me want to make a reply! Please all excuse my ignorance about the faxlist thing...all i am wondering about is 'what are you listening on'? Downloads really are not 'hifi' in any sense of the term (high fidelity) as in reproducing the music as it should be(or the producer/musician)intended... All the so called 5.1 realeases are in actual fact 4.1....The centre channel is not used...It is a dialogue channel so has zero relevance to music..In fact i can't comment on the .1 bit as my system goes below what subwoofers would reproduce... Unless 320Kb is employed you don't stand a hope in hells chance...DTS (Dolby Theatre System)of getting a nice sound out of your system (for surround). Martin thanks for all the great cds chap...Good luck with Air 5....If this all goes pear shaped let me know... From: "GREG HILL" To: "Trevor Cordes" ,"Fax List" Subject: Re: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:45:53 -0800 Trevor, you don't know anyone who purchases music digitally? with Ipods so popular(go to your nearest gym), most people are getting their mp3s from the Apple store, or some other mp3 site on the web. With record stores closing left and right, most people who enjoy listening to music, do not buy cds, as much as they do mp3s. Would other people agree with me on this point? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor Cordes" To: "Fax List" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: (fax) Re: DTS 5.1 music - is it or isnt it ? >On 15 Jan, GREG HILL wrote: >>how often does Namlook sell 1000 cds anyway(let alone ones that cost >>$25)? I bet its rare. > >Remember, he doesn't have to sell them to end users, just to disties and >record shops! If they sit on 100's of store's shelves then as far as >he's concerned he's sold 1000. Of course, I have no problem believing >that it doesn't take too long for FAX to sell most of the copies into >the hands of actual end users. Sure, some titles may take forever to >sell, but those must be the minority. > >Remember, he did 2000 and 3000 limitations for a while! > >>Especially since almost everyone who purchases >>music nowadays does it v