(fax) (was burned Fax on ebay) Bootlegs

jackthetab ambient at nycap.rr.com
Fri Apr 21 19:32:02 EDT 2006


I have mixed feelings about bootlegs in general. Certainly the ebay auction 
in question is not appropriate, however there are legitimate reasons to have 
bootlegs in my opinion. Take for instance an album released in a quantity of 
100 copies. Certainly a bootleg for those who truly appreciate the music can 
be gratifying. Even one up on that idea, is a bootleg of unreleased music, 
such as KLF "Made @ 3 AM Coming Down Off E".

Surely most artists are dissatisfied with bootlegs, and typically with good 
reason. However, having music which is not readily available, I feel is 
warranted to some degree. Now, making money off bootlegs is a no no, as 
stealing music to remunerate, does not sit well.

The idea of hunting for music is sometimes frustrating,
and typically rewarding when you actually find what you
are looking for. What happens when the music is no where
to be found, such as "Paino Room" from Muslimgauze.

Now I know some people will disagree with me, and find
any form of bootleg to be unwarranted, and not to be
apart of their collection. Is it possible that missing
out on music be counter productive to fans?

Music is meant to be shared, not concealed in secrecy.

kunst und wahnsinn,
    jackthetab

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ambient" <ambient at yahoo.com>
To: "Dave at Fax Label USA" <dave at faxlabelusa.com>; <faxlist at 2350.org>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: (fax) Re: Burned FAX cds being sold on e-bay


> Thanks for your post Dave.
>
> That listing has since been cancelled.
>
> if all you deputies want to do your part in the
> future, then go here and fill out this ebay form
> for bootlegs;
>
> http://pages.ebay.in/help/contact_us/_base/index.html
>
> start with
> Listing Violations
> on the next page you will find
> Counterfeit and copyright violations and Bootlegs
>
> Then...click the little button on the next page
> that says email ebay....this will take you to a
> form to input the questionable item.
>
>
> I had a bid on this item (COMPLETE AMBIENT
> COLLECTION 11 x CDs - HIA/NAMLOOK/FAX) for a few
> days;
>
> Yesterday, before Dave`s post i received this
> message from the seller; "hi, appreciate your
> bidding on this item. the last time i listed this
> ebay removed it so in the event they do it again,
> contact me via my user ID theyettidog and we'll
> work out a deal"
>
> as soon as i read it, i went into ebay and
> retracted my bid.
>
>
> Key point - in the future use this to report
> bootlegs;
> http://pages.ebay.in/help/contact_us/_base/index.html
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Dave at Fax Label USA <dave at faxlabelusa.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Hey Dave, thought I'd let you know about this
>> auction that just popped
>> > up:
>> >
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/COMPLETE-AMBIENT-COLLECTION-11-x-CDs-HIA-NAMLOOK-FAX_W0QQitemZ4868295418QQcategoryZ43607QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>> >
>> >
>> > It's got in bold print:
>> > NOTE - ALL DISCS ARE FULL ALBUM LENGTH BACK
>> UP COPIES SO YOU ARE GETTING
>> > 9+ HOURS OF AMBIENT MUSIC
>>
>> I'm forwarding this to the list. Please send me
>> any listings you feel are
>> bootlegs or CD-Rs as above. I have authority to
>> have them shut down, and I
>> contact ebay as soon as someone informs me
>> about the offending listings.
>>
>> They're good about getting back to me in 12-24
>> hours and shutting down the
>> listing. We'll be watching this one.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>
>
> =scout
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
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