(fax) Re: fax hardcore mix

Sat Mar 11 13:45:23 EST 2006

Currently listening to Christian's hardcore fax mix, it's FANTASTIC!

This sort of music has been over looked for too long, after all, the 
early fax stuff defined the Frankfurt trance sound for ages.

It's bringing so many memories back, great fun.

Paulbav

On 8 Mar 2006, at 00:30, Christian wrote:

> Hello Skip & all - I've posted some sets (more (hi-res) to come) up at 
> www.junglist.ca/fax/ along with a few other things (more to come there 
> as well). Please feel free to download, listen & critique. If anyone 
> wants to add links to their mixes, or have me host mixes, that's not a 
> problem - just shoot me an email and we'll sort it.
>
> Apologies in advance for the gratuitous rip-off's of two very 
> recognizable Fax websites. ;)
>
> cheers,
> Christian.
>
> Skip Acuff wrote:
>
>> Christian,
>>
>> This is a splendid idea.  Can't wait to hear the hardcore mix, and I 
>> hope someone does a "Guilty Pleasure Fax Trance Mix", too.
>>
>> Skip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christian [mailto:cvon at junglist.ca]
>> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:36 PM
>> To: Skip Acuff; Fax List
>> Subject: Re: Justifying picks [was: (fax) RESULTS OF FAX POLL!]
>>
>>
>> Skip - thanks for the reply. True enough - dj'ing is sometimes 
>> underrated (though, god knows I've seen too many overrated DJ's in my 
>> time). I guess I just look at the two differently - what I've done 
>> requires a lot less effort and exhaustion than what someone like Pete 
>> has to go through to ensure his work is disseminated. I also 
>> recognize this challenge because I'm now working my way into 
>> production (though still on the hobby level), and it's a vastly 
>> different animal than DJ work.
>>
>> With all that said, I love what I do, and there is nothing more 
>> beautiful than a mix that comes together - in a way, it is a form of 
>> composition, to be sure. I do have a number of mixes I have had on my 
>> site (www.junglist.ca), but they're all low-res MP3, so (and I have 
>> been meaning to do this for some time, so thanks for the excuse!) I 
>> think I'll throw some high-res mixes back online. Also - I second you 
>> in highly recommending Jackthetab's Fax mixes (as well as some of his 
>> personal production and other mixes (the antiroboterwelt mix in 
>> specific)) which are excellent.
>>
>> At the risk of starting another 'should we or shouldn't we make Fax 
>> mixes' debate, I'm happy to host any Fax mixes anyone has lying 
>> around. ;)
>>
>> I'll post a link to the list when I have a few of the mixes up, and, 
>> as always, would love any feedback. I have just finished a Fax 
>> 'hardcore mix' and am already bristling at the sort of response that 
>> I'm likely to get from mixing an hour's worth of things like "It's A 
>> Dirty Job". But hey - it is, isn't it? ;)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Christian.
>>
>>
>> Skip Acuff wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Christian,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the thoughtful response.  If you don't mind my saying so, 
>>> you
>>> are too modest.  DJ-ing may not be rocket science, but it can be art.
>>> The details of designing a mix logistically must be complemented by 
>>> an
>>> insight into the ineffable emotional dimensions of the music.  It's 
>>> like
>>> singing or playing an instrument.  You can't bullshit an audience on
>>> whether you are adept at either.
>>>
>>> I would like very much to listen to one of your fax mixes if you have
>>> one on line somewhere.  BTW, Jack has done a few that are worth 
>>> hearing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Skip
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christian [mailto:cvon at junglist.ca] Sent: Monday, March 06, 
>>> 2006 4:31 PM
>>> To: Skip Acuff
>>> Cc: faxlist
>>> Subject: Re: Justifying picks [was: (fax) RESULTS OF FAX POLL!]
>>>
>>> Hey Skip - that would have been was me, and I didn't really offer an 
>>> explanation at the time - so now I'll try to put it into context:
>>>
>>> IMHO it's an apples to oranges comparison between straight 
>>> recordings and 'best of' recordings, even if mixed. The fact that 
>>> it's mixed 'interpretively' (as compared to say "A View To A Chill") 
>>> to me doesn't change what it is - or more likely what it isn't. 
>>> There is no new material, just (yes, I know that's a big 'just') a 
>>> re-interpretation of existing material, which to me, makes it almost 
>>> impossible to compare on
>>>
>>> a level playing field with true Fax albums that offer up a single
>>> project.
>>>
>>> I'm not attempting to demean the track selection or mixing on either 
>>> of the cookbooks (though speaking as someone who's dj'd for nearly 
>>> 15 years
>>>
>>> now, I can say it's not exactly rocket science), but as a 
>>> self-admitted purist, I just don't feel that it's a 'new creation' 
>>> as far as the music
>>>
>>> goes - though I'll easily say that it is a new creation in terms of 
>>> interpretation. But those, to me, are two different things, and thus 
>>> apples to oranges - I wouldn't want to compare them, as they're two 
>>> very
>>>
>>> different species.
>>>
>>> Now, that said, if we all want to have a poll rating the various Fax 
>>> mixes that I know many of us have done over the years, then I'll 
>>> stack any of my mixes against the cookbooks any day (I often have 
>>> three tracks
>>>
>>> playing together simultaneously and beautifully, but it doesn't make 
>>> me a better artist than Namlook). But to weigh them against the 
>>> original albums, to me, just isn't a fair or equal comparison.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>> Skip Acuff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Someone suggested that it wasn't kosher to pick the Ambient 
>>>> Cookbook 2.
>>>> Why not?  It is a very sophisticated mix that puts each component 
>>>> into
>>>>
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>>>> new context, and even combines some components to create a new work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> In
>>>
>>>
>>>> short, AC2 is an independent work of art, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Skip
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kyle Schrock [mailto:monkeygra at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 
>>>> 06, 2006 3:24 PM
>>>> To: faxlist
>>>> Subject: Re: (fax) RESULTS OF FAX POLL!
>>>>
>>>> a lot of my picks i selected as a result of having been able to hear
>>>> them via the MP3 discs, but i chose the specific album, and not the
>>>> entire series/mp3 disc.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------
>>>>
>>>> --schrock
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